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March 28, 2022
We Hit 2 Million Views On Tiktok & An #AITA Update!

What's up Wikimaniacs! In We Hit 2 Million Views On Tiktok & An #AITA Update! we reflect on our recent TikTok success, respond to some comments from TikTok, and we have an AITA update that you definitely don't want to miss! O...


What's up Wikimaniacs! In We Hit 2 Million Views On Tiktok & An #AITA Update! we reflect on our recent TikTok success, respond to some comments from TikTok, and we have an AITA update that you definitely don't want to miss!

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What's up wicked maniacs to read it on Wiki.

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My name is Josh shell and I am your host for today with me are my famous Tik TOK friends.

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It's the man I'm calling Charlie.

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Demilio 2.0 John concept.

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Natto.

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What's up, John?

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that.

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I forgot your low key, like a middle-aged man.

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I am not middle age.

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I Just became 30.

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Okay.

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Fuck off.

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add heart at heart

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Actually, I've been, I've been a boomer, like body-wise for bass 10 years, so, okay.

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rock.

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And that dad bought all right.

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Oh, you know, you know what I'm saying?

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That Bob, no kids, I think

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Hell yeah.

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That's the life.

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exactly.

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every millennial's dream, I think.

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You know what I'm saying?

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and the man with enough dancing experience to start a hundred Tik TOK dance trends.

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It's Shawn Salvino.

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How's it going, Sean?

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to do I thought I was going to be Addy Ray thought I was going to be Addison Rae there.

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John gets Charlie.

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I get a just random dancer guy.

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I don't, I don't get a fancy.

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Alright.

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Are you Addison?

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Is that what we're

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Yeah.

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I'm Madison.

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Ray.

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Yeah.

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I can't I can't give you that.

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You can be.

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Who the fuck is hangry?

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So what, what

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talkers.

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vlog brothers,

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Who

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John and Hank green.

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I'm trying to think of who that I only know Charlie and Addison, because when we did the tic-tac episode

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of shots and thoughts, we had to Google who is the most like highest paid besides those two.

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I don't know the big ones.

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Well, Hank green is like a very famous, YouTuber with.

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Um,

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And they, they, he, he's written a few books and stuff that are very popular.

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His brother wrote a fault in our stars.

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Oh,

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Oh,

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he's a very popular tick talker now, so

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Nice.

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I was going to say on a side note, I saw a commercial.

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I don't know if I'm pronouncing his name right?

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Is it, Cabebe the guy that reacts to two situations and it's like, he makes it like very simple,

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Yeah,

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Um,

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all our, algorithms or our

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ours are so different.

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us.

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anyways, I just saw him.

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He has a story where he was, uh, he was a fact something, my, a factory worker that got laid off like a few years ago.

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And the next thing you know, he's a famous tech talker and I just saw him on a fricking commercial with boss.

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Oh, is

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Oh, wow.

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sorry,

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he goes like,

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listeners.

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Is he the,

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yes, it's him.

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Yeah, he does that Yeah,

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dude.

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I was like, man, I

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was like, dude, good for you.

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oh, that guy.

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Okay.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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He's got, he's got so many followers.

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I know who you're talking about now.

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I

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let's see if my

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his name.

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Right.

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Yeah, I have no idea either.

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That's fair.

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Um, but yeah, so, so Sean, I wanted, I wanted to, you know, connect it to your actual life because you were in fact a dance.

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You did dance.

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I forget exactly what it was.

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I did dance.

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So you're correct.

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Yeah.

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with it.

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I w I wanted to make it personally.

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I appreciate it.

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I appreciate.

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so we, we've got an awesome episode for you guys today.

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we'll be starting things off discussing our, our viral tick-tock video.

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so this is a little bit of a start of it.

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we're going to be reacting to some comments we received on that video.

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after that, I actually have an update on one of our mid asshole stories that we did with Dustin from Sandman stories presents, which we'll have to explain to Sean because he was not there.

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Sorry.

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back at it again with the plugs.

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Um,

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You said you could become a Patriot in Patriot.

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Ah, shit.

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like John's last name.

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I will learn it someday.

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Someday.

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And when it

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does happen, it will be glorious.

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Yeah.

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It'll be episode 50 or some shit, which is not surprisingly, not far

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away,

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far, actually.

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especially with we're banging out two episodes a week.

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It could be like innovative.

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She.

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so all donations to the Patrion goes towards hosting costs and equipment for us, as well as other shows in our network, like the equipment Sean is using.

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Now you hear that buttery smooth voice.

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Wow.

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How's it feel to sound like John?

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Um, still sound better

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Oh, God.

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let's not go there.

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John John's microphone costs both Josh and I microphone combined.

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Yes.

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It did probably more actually not have to think about it.

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I think so.

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Right.

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It's like three of our mix

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it, yeah, I think so.

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So I, I can actually, I do have a second one when I have guests on, so, all three of those mix equal.

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One of John's Mike's in quality.

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That's why he sounds so buttery smooth.

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Buttery baby.

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But, now Sean sounds buttery smooth.

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So hopefully that will make the editing process a little bit better.

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Oh yeah.

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It's not just an explosive.

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Man, listeners wicked maniacs.

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If you've heard our manscaped ad, I truly I'm here in person to apologize for the monstrosity that The audio quality is, uh, I do not stand by it, but that's what I had.

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To be fair.

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You're not the worst sounding one on that ad.

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I was using the wrong mic.

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we're using your laptop mic.

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Yeah, it was just recording my laptop, Mike, by accident.

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to be honest, it sounds identical to my $30 mic.

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So.

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Uh, so donations go to, upgrading my quality as well as, hosting and other things like that.

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So please do consider becoming a Patrion if you really enjoy the show and you get some bonus content, out of it as well.

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Before we get into it, I would like to thank our patrons, patrons, patrons, patriarchs.

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You'll get it.

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I

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Yep.

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Patrons, thanks to Alex, to Ru Aaron, Gabby, Lindsay, and Vienna for supporting the show.

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We really appreciate it.

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And if you wanted to be shredded on, showed it out on the show, please consider subscribing as well.

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Yeah.

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Now, with all of that housekeeping out of the way, boys, we are internet famous, whatever that means.

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For those of you who don't know what we're talking about though?

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I think a majority of our audience now has come from that video, that's what the analytics show anyway.

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so, we had a video go viral on Tik TOK.

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It was a clip from our MIT assholes segment where we talked about the asshole.

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You know, abandoned his pregnant wife to go to a birthday party or his friend?

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Well, she went to get an ultrasound, so a real piece of shit.

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A real dickhead.

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people seem to enjoy Sean and John ripping and to this day.

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It was a collective, it was a collective ripping, all

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Yeah.

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Oh yes,

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We jumped the guy pretty much verbally.

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humble yourself.

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Josh, you were, uh, people were enjoying you as well.

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No, I, well, yes, I did rip into him as well.

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but I think you guys cut me off at the part and, and people have loved that part where you guys cut me off and were just like, no, you're the asshole.

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You don't even have to continue.

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Honestly, we were two sentences in and it would, it became pretty apparent.

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yeah, he was definitely an asshole.

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It was very much confirmed in the comments and how that video got spread.

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so as I said, I posted that video on tick-tock and, I do have some stats for you guys.

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So as of recording today, we literally just hit 2 million views on that video.

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Probably was it like an hour and a half ago,

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Goodness gracious.

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about yeah.

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it has over 375,000 likes comments and over 7,000 people have shared it.

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Oh, my God.

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now I do want to get into some of the comments cause some of them were amazing and, and.

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but since this is the first time we've been together, since that video went viral, and that is why we were talking about it like three weeks later, now that you're probably listening to it.

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It's old news by now.

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it is old news.

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I apologize.

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We'll be back to AB 100 views now.

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Yeah, we're already back to 100 likes.

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Yeah.

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So I, I wanted to ask you guys a, what, what went through your mind when that video started to gain traction?

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on, I believe it was Sunday afternoon, Sunday night that it hit like 10,000, 20,000 views.

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What, what, what were you guys' thoughts

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Shocked.

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yeah, I've gotten like a couple thousand on like a YouTube, but that wasn't, I was just in the YouTube video.

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I wasn't, I didn't, I wasn't the one that posted it.

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So.

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Being a part of something, being a part of that account and then watching it slowly, not even really slowly, it hit a mill in like a day.

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Right.

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It was crazy.

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Yeah.

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wild.

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I had, I had, people reach out to me and be like, I didn't even know you had another podcast.

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Yeah, I was, I was going to say the same thing I was and I always tell people this, you know, I really truly believe in our content because otherwise we wouldn't show up like, you know, every other week peek behind the curtain.

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It's like, you know, every show up every other week to record.

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If we didn't think that we were doing something good.

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Yeah, well that we think is good.

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We had no idea.

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Anyone else would think is

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exactly.

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Like this is like the biggest validation that so far we've received and It

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was just overwhelmingly nice.

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It might be the biggest validation we ever received.

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We'll ever, Yeah.

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You

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God, I hope not.

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But it was, it was, crazy, peek behind the curtains.

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I just, I run the, or I ran the tick-tock account.

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so I make the clips and then, and then I throw them up.

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so Sunday morning I wake up and I'm like, oh, I have this clip might as well throw it up.

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It's pretty fun.

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so I throw it up I completely forget about it.

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We going rock climbing that day and doing like grocery shopping.

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It's a Sunday, you know, classic things, you're doing stuff.

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And,

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I'm just a Sunday morning rock climbing, something

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just, it was the first time I'd done it.

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So,

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I just

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climb in bed.

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My guide.

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That's all I do.

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As far as climbing shit.

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Oh, God.

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Um, so I posted the video, we went rock climbing.

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it's probably four o'clock when we come out of the grocery store and I am like, oh, I forgot.

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I posted this.

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Tick-tock just in the car waiting for my girlfriend to, , put her seatbelt on or whatever.

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So I just quickly.

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And I have hundreds of notifications.

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I'm like, well, what is happening?

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And I check the video and I'm like, oh, it's like, it's doing pretty well, like 8,000 views or whatever.

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I'm like, that's pretty good.

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And,

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quadruple anything else we've ever done up

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Ever exactly.

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we had, we had one video, actually it's at half a million right now, but it was at like 20,000, 20,000 at that point.

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So we did have ones that went that high.

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was rare.

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It was like one or two.

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So I was like, this is cool.

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Like, this is awesome.

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People are interacting and engaging with it on the eight minute drive home, I got home and we had hit 12,000 views.

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I was like, holy shit, this is crazy.

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and then going to bed that night, we were like 45,000 or something like.

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And my girlfriend and I are joking like, oh, what do you think is going to cap out at?

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And she's like, Ugh, probably 50,000.

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And I was like, I'm going to be optimistic.

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I'll say 60, wake up the next day.

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It is 150,000, which is just nuts.

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And then, yeah, as John said, by midnight, that day it hit a million, which is, I will.

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You guys know?

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I was incredibly, like, I felt sick all day, so anxious.

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We were, it was funny because that morning, I think when I started talking to Josh and Sean, it was like a 300,000

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and we were like, This is insane.

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Like 300,000 for us, we probably would have been like peak

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you know?

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then I was joking around with Josh.

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I'm like, watch this bitch go hit a million.

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And you're like, nah, that's never going to happen.

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I don't think so.

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was like, there's no way.

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You're like, it's like, it's already peaked it.

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Speaking.

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It's going down.

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It's going down.

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I thought so.

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Yeah.

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And then I was, uh, very proven wrong, when it climbed to 600,000 by lunchtime.

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Jeez.

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And I, like, I S I said, and I've said if our other end, by the asshole episode, I don't know why, but I had just this wave of anxiety.

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I felt sick all day as, as you guys going to test.

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Cause I, like, John was super excited and I was just like, I am not enjoying this at all.

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I don't know why my body was like, I don't know how to feel about this.

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So you're going to be just upset stomach all day.

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And I was like,

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oh God, mom's spaghetti.

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Uh, how did you guys feel?

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Uh, once we hit the million.

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man.

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I was like already formulating ideas in my head and how I'm going to write my two weeks notice.

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I'm just like, I'm kind of famous.

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Y'all like live fucking day job, but that's not going to happen any,

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No, no, no.

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We quickly realized you can not turn views into money

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Yeah.

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right away.

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think I honestly, I was hype, but I got more hype whenever we put out an episode.

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And then it became like, by far our highest cause I was like, oh yeah, tick-tock school.

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But you know, something, you know, Tik TOK doesn't always mean downloads.

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And that

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that's that's why, I mean, I don't do it for the downloads, but that's like the podcasts, uh, number

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that's the metric.

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That's what you, Yeah.

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success.

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So I was like, oh yeah, take that.

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but the downloads is what I want.

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And

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Um,

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the downloads were fucking crazy too.

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So I was like, oh shit.

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Okay.

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So this is for real growth, way less cock and ball jokes for sure.

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Going forward.

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And,

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which I'm a fan of, got to say.

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but yeah, it's, it's wild that, uh,, I, I felt like, you know, maybe it won't translate, but it did not saying we got like a million.

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That would be crazy, but we did get like, double or triple

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our

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usual.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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still like, the people that have stuck around, like thank you for sticking around this is really appreciate you showing up and downloading our episodes and, and listening in, even on episodes that aren't just MIT asshole.

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Yeah, we even the am I, the asshole thing was just a bonus episode, but now that you know, it went viral on Tik TOK, we were like, well, fuck it.

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Give the people what they want and we're going to do weekly.

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Am I the assholes now?

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Because Tik TOK demands it.

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And, we are people pleasers.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I also like we enjoy doing it.

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Like it's fun just to read, terrible people are or not terrible people.

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And then just being like, yeah, that person's an asshole.

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It's fun.

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And the, the, the discussion is fun around it.

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before we leave off with, with the, general feelings and stuff about the video go into some comments, is there anything you want to say to the, influx of listeners that we have obtained?

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when they're listening to this, they'll already be like month-long listeners.

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Is there anything you want to like clarify or let them know before we move on.

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Yeah,

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Oh,

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Yeah.

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I'm sorry for everything that I've done up until this point.

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Um, I never wrote any of that stuff, so that, I mean, we you're just reading it it's not anything bad, but it's not anything good either.

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Yeah.

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So, episode two and then just add three every single

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time.

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Expect some smut

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uh,

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five a

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And

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Yeah.

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we get to the air, the assholes, you know, the Al I'm a little bit better by then.

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he's mellowed down.

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this year, like the new years, done

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no.

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I think

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full

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disclosure.

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new wicked maniacs.

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I did the first one as a joke.

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And then original crop of wicked maniacs, really wanted it.

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They wanted me to continue to dig that.

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I, and this he's not lying.

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We had tweets and like people being like, this is hilarious.

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Keep doing

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this.

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and our stats, those were

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our most listened to episodes.

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But much like me through a certain point.

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I think the original at maniacs also got tired of this mud, thankfully.

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Uh, so we, we stopped that altogether, but those first couple of episodes, uh, you know, it was punishment for you guys originally, and then it was punishment for all three of us.

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And then it was, you know, it's funny we laugh through it.

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Uh, we're past it.

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It's done.

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thankfully am I, the asshole has saved me from the.

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And I would just like to apologize if you did start from the beginning, do that please.

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Don't it's if it's too late, I apologize.

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But if you haven't gone back

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Yeah, just don't listen to the last 20 minutes.

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You're fine.

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Up until that point.

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true.

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If it's good up until then

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I'll kind of go the opposite route of Shawn and, uh, I'm

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going to go

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sentimental sentiment.

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I'd go sentiment a little bit and yes, listen to this mud, it gets freaky.

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Well, how we structure to shows how we talked about this, like outside of the recording space, a lot of times, we want it to separate ourselves from the pack of just being like information overload, because granted we are not experts in anything.

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We're not writers.

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We're

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not,

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we're not.

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researchers, we're not producers at all.

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We're just like three guys just trying to have fun and like learning something in the most wrong way possible.

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What we were talking about, like during the recording or during the preps phase, we kind of wanted to sell ourselves as personalities more than anything.

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So the fact that you all resonated to that, and the fact that you appreciated the, the words that we said and how we.

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Approach certain things.

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That's us talking to you, like how we would talk to you if we saw you in person.

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So just the fact that you enjoyed our personality, that meant a big deal to us because that's what we're trying to put out weekend and week out.

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That's very beautifully said.

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I don't know if I can add on to anything you guys said.

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I

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might be more anxious if I meet you in person full disclosure.

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My

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bad.

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we ever, if we ever do a live show, we will definitely be a little bit more introverted than we are right now.

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Oh, I I'd, I'd be worse.

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no, John would be on, on 200.

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yeah.

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He'd make up for both of us, which is fine.

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but yeah, just to add onto what John said, I'm incredibly humbled the support and the, the views and, the now downloads, and, and welcoming all the new wicked maniacs has been crazy.

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And I appreciate it.

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I hope you enjoy.

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the mid Asil segments going forward, but on, over that, if you do enjoy our personalities and you like, what, just how we communicate with each other and kind of fuck with each other.

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you'll absolutely love the Monday episodes, even if it's maybe not something you're usually interested in listening to, it is a lot of conversation.

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so if you do enjoy the, our banter together, then you will enjoy those episodes too.

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That's all we got.

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That's all we got.

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So, so yeah, we, we really appreciate it and, uh, we hope to, continue, making good content and hopefully it resonates with the people listening.

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So, to cap it off, we're going to be responding to some of the amazing people that did comment on our videos.

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9,800 comments.

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I picked out a few that I thought stood out and that resonated with people in the comments.

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so once again, this video, was the guy who instead of going to an ultrasound with his pregnant wife, went to a party and then berated her afterwards for, going to the ultrasound without.

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Fucking Dick head.

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Idiot.

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So, Lizzie underscore, 16, 17 says, quote, bra, the appointment would have taken like 20 minutes.

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He could have done both and quote.

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And a lot of people brought this point of which I don't think we, we actually talked about, but yeah, the dude definitely could have made both.

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we

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full full disclosure to give ourselves some credit.

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We are not fathers.

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We don't know how long that would have taken, but yeah, reading that, I was like, oh, this guy is not only an asshole, but even more of a dumb ass than we originally thought.

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Yeah, it's something that makes them more of a dumb ass.

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E 10

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times.

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I think had we known that information that it would only have taken like 20 to 30 minutes?

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I think we would have ripped them out harder.

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Oh yeah.

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we were arrested his ass.

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Speaking of, uh, us not knowing things.

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So, Twitch MacGyver KV underscore 82, said, quote, the ultrasound is so much more important.

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It checks for so many medical things and.

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And this was a point, many people pointed out, that, we didn't hit on mostly because I believe we, none of us have kids.

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And so we've never been through this.

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but the ultrasound also checks to see, like if the baby and mother are healthy, so to add onto this just terrible thing that we just thought it was like a gender.

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but to make it as 10 times worse, well, this asshole was getting drunk with his friends.

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His wife could have been finding out like just terrible news and would it have been forced to do like go through that alone while he was gone?

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even more of a Dick.

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yeah, that was very eye opening.

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It turns out we can be more spot on with our, uh, assessment of this asshole.

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I think it was pretty clear as you said, within the first two sentences.

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uh, a underscore Hancher said, quote, love how he claims she lied.

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Like she was pretty explicit that she wouldn't be canceling regardless of whether or not he was accompanying her end quote.

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And I think this was the point Sean was trying to get across when he was just yelling your, you canceled, you fucking canceled.

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Yeah, you canceled?

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She didn't

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uh,

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And it's good that she did

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Oh yeah.

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Well, good for her and the baby's health right now that we know.

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there was so many people that were saying divorce should this should be a divorce

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I can't say what's a divorce and what's not a divorce, but

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the guy definitely needs counseling and he definitely needs some

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help and, uh, you know, get some perspective on shit.

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Oh, yeah.

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Reality check.

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Because a as room 1822 said, quote, wait until he finds out what, , how having a baby will affect your , social schedule and quote.

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Yeah, you can't just be going to parties because you got to take care of your kid.

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your whole life changes.

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it's not about, I've had multiple parents tell me, be yeah, I want you to have kids.

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Everything is different.

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Like you're not living for you.

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You're living, I mean, you're living for you, but

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you you're giving more attention to your baby and making sure you're being.

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one

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Has the, has the best life possible?

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And The part of me that is probably a realist, is like, I don't know if this, his life will change because unless the wife kicks his ass or he gets counseling, as you said, John, but, uh, he seems like the kind of guy who would just whatever the fuck he wants, even if he has a baby.

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so I don't know if he's the one you want to have a baby with,

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not.

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which is unfortunate.

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Yeah.

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the last comment I want to hit on, this was echoed all throughout our comments.

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Most of these were, so you said it and I didn't quote you.

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Exactly.

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I apologize.

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We do appreciate your comment.

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there was just so many, I had to choose a few.

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so the last comment I want to hit on, made me feel like both proud of who we are as people and as a podcast, and also absolutely embarrassed to be a male podcast.

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Oh, yeah.

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That one.

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Lee Syeda, Lacy Lee Sayada I apologize if I am butchering your name, I'll put it on the screen.

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If we clip this, they said, quote, I've clearly been on the wrong side of tick-tock since I was a little concerned to see men with microphones, but this past the vibes with flying colors and quotes,

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and we got a ton of comments like this.

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Yeah.

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this is, it's hard to respond to these ones because I feel, as I said before, incredibly honored and humbled that so many women support our takes and see us as like an ally the podcasting space and the community.

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But on the other hand, it sucks that treating women with respect and human decency is so fucking rare in the

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guests, and community,

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This is what I was feeling the whole time we were popping off.

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Go off, Sean.

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I want to hear this

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shit.

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was like, okay, no offense.

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And maybe it's just cause you know, the, like have podcasts shit on my algo.

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So a lot of it is like just people chopping on like the alpha male podcast.

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Cause Rogan is famous, but most indie podcasts, I won't say most, but the ones that I've been in contact with are all, usually decent.

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And the fact that we were getting

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praised for, when I, when I saw all the praise.

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I'm sad that this is surprising behavior

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to see,

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in my mind, this is a hundred percent normal behavior.

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Like everyone should think that guy is asshole.

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Like, it shouldn't be a surprise.

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Like, oh, finally, some guys spit, like everyone should be spitting like that.

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Yeah.

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Oh, a hundred.

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so whenever we were popping off, I was like, oh man, it's tight.

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We're popping off.

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And then I was like, oh man, it sucks that.

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This is, uh, I mean, and I'm happy that, you know, like you said, I'm honored that people respect our takes or at least agreed with us on that one take.

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But like, uh, it's just crazy to me that a majority of people don't think that men would agree with that take I'm like, damn, we, we have really fucking suck as a.

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for the, for the expectation to be, they're going to side with the husband saying human with side with the husband.

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If you side with that husband and that story, get your, like, we did have a couple of comments.

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Big, absolutely obliterated.

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Thank God.

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But yeah, I, for me, I can't understand who would side with that guy, but.

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Yeah, you're right.

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You're right.

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People heard us and they expected us to side with him because he's a male where male, like, and I don't don't don't get me wrong.

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I don't blame you for judging.

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no, it's definitely.

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Our gender's fault, uh, just for,

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yeah.

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y'all aren't at fault for thinking something's going to happen when it happens.

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You're conditioned to think that way.

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And that's all, I mean, there's only so much the three of us can do as individuals, but as a gender, it's kind of shameful to see the expectation is for us to be like, you know what?

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He was fucking lied to.

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You know what

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I'm saying?

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So

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Yeah.

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and the crazy thing is the more misogynistic you get, and the more problematic you get the more spotlight you get, therefore you get more media attention.

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Therefore you get more.

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You get more talked about?

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I mean, a lot of the pop culture figures are not really the best type of example you got future, you got Kanye currently, you know, and it's just, and I don't blame, sorry, Sean, I'm going to talk

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Hey, Hey,

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Kanye,

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Kanye as a man, we can go in.

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He's a piece of shit music.

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Non-mid about go on Kanye as an asshole.

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I

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agree.

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and, and, I do hate based on what you guys said about how it's not normal behavior for some times for men just to be you know, it's to agree you on the right side of things, instead of just saying, Ooh, I'm macho and I'm a man, so therefore I'm right.

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hate that shit.

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Did.

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the ones that do come out of the woodwork to kind of.

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Comment.

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It's usually quote unquote alpha male saying, oh, you guys are a bunch of Sims.

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You guys are a bunch of betas because you're siting with a girl.

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You're just trying to do this

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Yeah,

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attention from girls.

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It's like, no,

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we have girls.

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We have girls.

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We are, we are happily within relationships.

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word.

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Good dog.

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And I want to say the reason why we're in great relationships is because we don't act like total piece of shit.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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just saying.

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w want to like generalize all men, but , on behalf of of us, sorry,

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Yeah, for sure.

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I don't think you're saying like, cause I mean the saying is all men, obviously it's not, that is not what they mean.

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but it is like a large portion.

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Like you see these podcasts, like I'll call them out fucking good bros, bad bros or the no filter podcasts.

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They actually.

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don't even know what those are.

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I'm

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There you go.

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Perfect.

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I only know because, there's a couple of tech doctors.

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I listened to that actively bring them down and like destroy.

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So there, that's the only reason they're in my algorithm.

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but they actively tear women down so that they can feel better about themselves and they get millions of views.

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whether it's probably, quite a big portion of that is like hate watch, obviously.

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But they still make money off that they still get the views and then it reciprocates this, oh, that's what will get me views.

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So people just into that and they make a podcast that's just actively tearing down women.

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And so I feel, I feel for the women in the comments, like, saying, I was concerned to see men with microphones, because after seeing so many male podcasts attacking women, they probably have.

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Defensive when they first saw us.

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I'm not saying we're saints or anything.

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Cause we're, we're fucking not, but

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how hard is it?

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two.

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Uh, if you need to know how not saintly we are.

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Yeah,

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Yeah.

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I mean?

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like, like Sean said, I think Sean hit it perfectly.

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They're probably conditioned to believe that

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seeing, males talking on a mic that we're going to be problematic and it's, it's unfortunate.

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It shouldn't be that way.

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not their fault at all.

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Like we all said, like, it's

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just, yeah, it's the, it's hard to blame social media because when you hate watch something, you know, you want to bring it down, but.

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You're watching it and you

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know, that gives other people the idea you're boosting it up.

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And in that, not to say we're like great guys or whatever, but it felt nice to have a viral video defending women and oppose the viral videos that are constantly and shaming women.

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I mean like how, how fucking hard is it just to treat everyone with

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respect and make a podcasting and Tik TOK, like a safe space for everyone.

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Like, it can't be that like, just do it.

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Just

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Yeah.

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human being.

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It reminds me of like a, I have some friends that, um, Tinder and all that stuff like they online date.

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And then they're just like, you know, how many fucking, normal people, like not normal dudes.

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There are

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Oh yeah,

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just like, sh like, they'll be like, you get so much credit if you're just.

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Regular.

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If you're not, uh, not like, you know, fucking six pack showing

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guns or like a, yeah, I fucking annoying.

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Do you just be normal man?

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Like,

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yeah.

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don't know.

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Yeah, treat.

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I dunno.

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It's, it's, uh, it's, uh, easiest saying, but treat people how you would like to be treated and that was the only point I wanted to hit on, or that was a big point I wanted to hit on before we ended it off.

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once again, We appreciate the sport.

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we hope to try and bring some positivity to the male podcasting space.

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Uh, cause I think, I think a lot of men can do better in this space and I think they should be fucking better.

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So, now with all that viral tick-tock, talk out of the way.

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Viral Tik TOK talk, God.

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That's the

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I like it.

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Yes.

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take.

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We're Picasso.

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I like it.

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we're going to take a, a quick ad break.

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And then when we come back, we've got an update, from an MIV asshole segment that you will not want to miss.

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So stay tuned for that.

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So I do have an update on it and MIV asshole.

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I want to do this, because it was a, it was one that I think hit home for John and as well as Dustin, , which Dustin could be here, but he is across the world.

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It is hard to schedule things.

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so we got Sean here.

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, he'll definitely have some insight on this.

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Sean, the story, basically this girl, has been dating this guy for four years.

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they decide during the pandemic to go to his parent's house every week for dinner, you know, on the weekends.

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and so as part of her culture, It's instilled in her to bring a gift to dinner, you know, like some flowers, their favorite dessert, something like that.

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You know what I mean?

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Just small things, like a bottle of wine.

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Yeah.

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so they've been doing this for four months and one week her boyfriend just decides, to tell her, why do you keep bringing my parents gifts?

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They're not charity cases.

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Hmm.

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and that was everyone's initial

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response.

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so she goes, well, that's just how I was brought up.

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You know, I have, I, my parents are immigrants.

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This is our in our culture, just to bring a nice gift to, to dinner.

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I didn't realize I was offending any anyone, and no one had said anything up to this point.

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So he said that she was being really disrespectful and that she should stop imposing her culture on it, on everywhere.

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Oh,

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Yeah.

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she gives him the vase of flowers that she was gonna take to his parents that night.

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And she goes on a walk while he goes to the parents and he comes back and tells her that, the parents don't want her over until she apologizes.

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And, that it was inappropriate what she did.

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The fuck.

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And she was wondering if she was the asshole for imposing her culture.

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the fuck.

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What the fuck?

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This happened for months.

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If it was a problem, he could have been just been like, uh, know, shitty parents, shitty son, but the parents could have just been like, Hey.

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does she think we can't afford these things?

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Like what's the problem?

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Why does she keep bringing stuff?

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And then he would just be like, oh, I don't know.

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I could talk to her like a normal person and just be like, Hey, my parents are wondering, like, what's the deal with gifts?

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Yeah.

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culture.

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Oh, well, they got offended.

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So, you know, uh, we, we could just like skip that, you know?

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cause know, just fucking have a conversation.

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Don't wait for months and then be like,

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Yeah,

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up with you?

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just come out so aggressive.

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are fucking charity cases.

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They can't afford a fucking bottle of wine.

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You motherfucker.

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Oh God.

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like, this is, uh, I don't know if this was a problem.

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Why have we been doing this for months?

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Yeah.

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I miss Sean on this episode.

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Oh fuck.

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You basically said exactly what we said.

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The other thing, I think the only other thing we added was it's not a weird thing to bring a bottle of wine or flowers or dessert

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And adult thing to do,

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Yeah,

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exactly.

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least like ask and be like, oh, what can we bring to dinner?

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Like,

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you know, we're, we're, going over there to eat.

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You're cooking.

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Yeah.

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bring, you know, a wine or a dessert or some shit, a vase of flowers.

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I don't fucking know.

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How do you, how do you get upset enough to not allow?

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Oh my God.

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We're not even done yet.

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That was just the recap of the story there's an update on this story.

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She was kind enough to update everyone on what happened after this

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story.

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Uh,

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up.

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yeah.

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Yeah.

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Good.

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God.

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she posts, am I the asshole culture clash on that's her username on Reddit?

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she says, thanks.

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And for all the support and stuff like that.

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And then she goes into the update.

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So she says, I told my boyfriend, I was sick and tired of him dancing around the issue at this point, I think he realized that whatever he was doing had backfired.

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So he sat down all angry and told me, he'd explain, I sat.

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And he told me that he'd done something.

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Very spur of the moment.

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And then he texted me from his dad's phone, then blocked the number, but begged me to listen.

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So the dad texted her, don't come over until you apologize.

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it wasn't

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even the parents.

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I had my, my suspicions.

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uh, he just needed to get his parents off of me for a while Apparently his parents had started hinting at him about marriage since my boyfriend and I talked about it a lot.

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I fully expected to marry him.

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As I said in another comment and I was honestly expecting a proposal in late spring since that's when we met four years of dating, didn't bother me, but I was getting excited to settle.

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However, my boyfriend apparently realized that he absolutely didn't want to commit to anything and wanted to experiment and have fun since I wasn't quote being fun anymore.

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And quote,

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Uh,

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honestly, that just made me cry since we were each other's first for everything, and usually very good at communicating our needs.

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His grand plan, his grand plan was, to get him mad at me.

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So I would beg for forgive.

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And then he'd only accept an open relationship as an answer.

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Oh, no.

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Yeah.

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this guy.

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Fuck this guy.

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Oh my fucking God.

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Fuck this.

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I told you this was, uh, quite the update.

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so she goes on to say absolutely brilliant plan.

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I know.

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He made up his parents getting mad at me, but didn't expect me to blow off dinner completely.

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And it's like hitting jackpot.

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His words, not mine.

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He went over for dinner, hid the flowers and said we'd gotten into a huge fight, he was going to fix it, but I needed space.

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After he confessed all of this.

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He said he was very sorry, but really didn't want to miss out on new experiences when he was still young and would consider an open relationship, but pretend ours was strained with his parents so they wouldn't get suspicious.

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I laughed.

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I laughed his ass right out the door and told him absolutely not.

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And to leave me alone while I packed, because I wanted to have a new, some new experiences too.

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He never stopped begging me to stay, but I left asleep at a.

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After calming down for a few days, I cemented the breakup and finally actually went over to his parents.

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My ex-boyfriend's dad never even noticed the phone missing, but still apologized.

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And his mom was a mess I did and still loved them.

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And we'll eat dinner there without them, as often as I can.

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I won't lie that I'm still sad, about four years going down the drain, but that's life.

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If it was my ex's best possible plan, then I dodged bullet by a mile.

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got damn right, SIS.

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You did.

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Oh, what a fucking.

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what a sociopath,

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Fucking I'm a little bit speechless, uh,

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Holy shit.

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an evil mastermind slash dumb ass.

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Uh, evil, evil, evil, evil, evil.

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why would you ever fess up to something like that?

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Like that is, I mean, don't get me wrong.

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Don't lie to people, but this is like next level shit.

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You should be in prison, probably Jesus Christ.

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You are a danger to society.

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I'll say, fuck this guy.

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Fuck that

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guy, man.

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Yeah.

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a fucking.

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to, to make up a fight just to then come back to blackmail her for an open relationship so that you can fuck other people.

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I'm beyond, like, it's just ridiculous.

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It is ridiculous.

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it's so fucking evil.

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I mean, the whole plan is evil, but for him to quote unquote, say her staying home to, you know, get space was hitting jackpot.

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Yeah.

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burn in the hell.

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My friend burn in hell.

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Oh man.

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Yeah, that guy is a certified asshole.

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You dodged a bullet.

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I hope you have, like, I, I want to take back everything I said about the parents in our original, um, yeah, I apologize.

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You raised an asshole son though.

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Jesus Christ.

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gaping hole.

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There, There Vasa hellhole

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was

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big boots.

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like figures in your life now.

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I mean, I guess four years, wasn't down the drain

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sort of, and it sounds like you're young to you, so it's a way better, less evil fish in the sea.

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It's, it's better that you wasted four years rather than the rest of your life, you know, figuring that out.

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and hopefully you find someone much more deserving of your, gifts to your parents for dental.

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I was going to say, keep your culture says, keep that close

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to you.

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Cause that will, that will, help you out tremendously, with the right person.

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Absolutely.

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all right.

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Wait, Khamenei X.

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That is it for this episode.

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we did just talk about Tik TOK.

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and am I the asshole this episode?

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I know that's not a usual Monday, Monday one.

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I had planned to do the banana Republic, but we will push that to a later episode.

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so thank you very much for listening.

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there.

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I said it right that time.

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that was amazing.

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Good job, man.

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thank you very much for listening.

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Stay tuned Friday for our, our, our new Friday episodes.

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It's going to be like a week old at this point, but, stay tuned for that.

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thank you very much.

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Wiki maniacs for listening and thank you, John and Sean for joining me today, we will see you Friday.