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The Whiskey Rebellion | America's Second Best Rebellion

The Whiskey Rebellion | America's Second Best Rebellion

Another Josh episode means another history episode! Listen and learn about The Whiskey Rebellion, the American rebellion against George Washington's tax on whiskey production. In the end, we go over who won the candy list and Josh takes his punishment in the form of candy corn!

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Josh:

What's up.

Josh:

What can maniacs welcome to read it on Wiki.

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My name is Josh shell and I am your host for today.

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Sorry for my absence last week, but a huge, so to Lindsay from yield crime, for covering for me, I'm slightly worried about losing my job.

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But she's not Canadian.

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So I think I'm safe with me as always, however, is of course your boy, Sean, what's up, buddy?

Sean:

I see a boy, Sean, it's your boys.

Sean:

Uh, That's three shots.

Sean:

You know what it is?

Josh:

It's called name recognition.

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And the man keeping this entire podcast together with his shit posting on Twitter.

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It's John what's up.

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We got to

John:

come up with another nickname for, for me, because on my episodes, I say, it's your boy, John as well.

John:

So I think that's Sean's now.

Sean:

Yeah, I've taken it over.

Sean:

I'm sorry.

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It's too late for me.

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It's your girl, John?

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Uh, uh, Yeah, I don't know.

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We'll come up with something.

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I mean, I don't have one either.

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I don't know.

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No, that's my thing.

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I'm father Josh.

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That's all.

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That's my nickname.

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Which is a, another throwback to an episode where I requested that'd be the title.

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He says, quote, what is it called when you're learning, learning about stuff, but it's ridiculously fun and quote, and I don't know the answer.

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This is Brian Lee, but goddamn.

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I hope it's us.

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Uh, We appreciate you listening.

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And if you want to have your name read on the show, be sure to leave us a rating and a review with the creative title like Brian.

John:

Uh, We don't even know the answer or

Sean:

you can leave really hurtful comments like that guy on YouTube.

Josh:

That's fine too.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Should we talk about that?

Josh:

I don't know.

John:

To me it's very ironic because his first taglines.

John:

I do not listen to hopefully no one listens to

Josh:

this.

Josh:

Some shit like that.

Josh:

I'll give, I'll give context.

Josh:

So on YouTube, we're on YouTube now, by the way, there's video, I'm looking at you.

Josh:

If you're watching Sean is not looking at his camera and when he does

Sean:

good skin

Josh:

is looking good.

Josh:

So on YouTube, we had a comment on my Salem witch trials episode, where he says that they had debunked the, or got in the bread.

Josh:

But my response to that is it's funny as shit.

Josh:

So get over.

Josh:

It doesn't really change anything if they were on LSD or not.

Josh:

I don't know.

Josh:

It was hundreds of years ago.

Josh:

Who cares

John:

that guy?

John:

You can.

Josh:

Yourself, please support us.

Josh:

We're

Sean:

just going to roll past that comment, John, we're just going to bypass that completely.

Sean:

Not even mention,

John:

I didn't say after yourself, I just, you know, kind of yourself and go

Josh:

yourself, go do LSD and chill a little, you know now with all the housekeeping out of the way, it's time to get into the top.

Josh:

Of today's episode to kick things off.

Josh:

I'd like to ask John and Sean, what would you guys say are America's top three, favorite things, guns

Sean:

for

Josh:

money.

Josh:

Okay.

Josh:

That is three things.

Josh:

Okay.

Josh:

You have those right off the top of those heads out of his head, you can tell he's born from Texas.

Sean:

Believe it.

Josh:

What about you?

Josh:

A lot of

John:

things that involves balls.

John:

So footballs, basketballs, and baseballs.

Josh:

Okay.

Josh:

Balls.

Josh:

I never expected that, but

John:

well shot took all the good ones.

John:

So I have to say

Josh:

something.

Josh:

Yeah, that's true.

Josh:

Okay.

Josh:

I mean, Sean did hit a few of them, you know, money.

Josh:

So not paying taxes, of course guns of war, which is billions and.

Josh:

Whiskey, the three cornerstones of American lifestyle, not paying taxes, whisky and rebellion that only

Sean:

the rich people don't pay taxes.

Sean:

We pay taxes.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

But you guys fight it every time.

Josh:

That's how your country was built.

John:

We bought a middle-class.

John:

Got to eat up all this shit all the time.

John:

All right.

Josh:

Okay.

Josh:

No, listen.

Josh:

I'm okay with that.

Josh:

There, it should pay more taxes.

Josh:

I agree with that.

Josh:

It was like

John:

Jeffrey Bezos can casually go to.

John:

Well, we got to work our nine to five

Josh:

with William Shatner, William Shatner, go to space.

Josh:

Oh shit.

Josh:

Shans way behind.

Josh:

Yeah, he went up there.

Josh:

And he was very AUSTRAC, which is weird because I've seen him up there before on the show.

Josh:

It was a documentary, I think, back in the.

Josh:

Seventies.

Josh:

I don't know when it was.

Josh:

So I don't know why he was so surprised at to what space was, but anyway.

Josh:

Yeah, he was up there.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

So going back to the three things we are going to talk about the whiskey rebellion.

Josh:

One of the lesser known American revolts in history.

Josh:

Do you guys know anything about the whiskey rebellion?

John:

Is it kind of like the alcoholic version of the Boston tea party?

Josh:

It is almost exactly that

Josh:

you want to rebel.

Josh:

Uh, Yeah, you have to be absolutely plastered to hold a gun.

Josh:

It's something that could only take place in Pennsylvania.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

So the whiskey rebellion was oh, so by the way, we're going to, I'm going to go through what the whiskey rebellion is.

Josh:

We're going to do an ad break and then after the ad break, stay tuned because I'm going to consume some candy corn as punishment for my.

Josh:

My terrible candy list.

Josh:

Apparently the lender um, we'll get candy corn.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

We'll, we'll get to the scores and who won and all that at the end of the show.

Josh:

So stick around for that, but let's hop into the whiskey rebellion.

Josh:

Uh, So the whiskey rebellion was a 1794 uprising by farmers and distillers in Western Pennsylvania to protest a federal whiskey tax.

Josh:

after years of aggression with tax collectors, the region finally erupted into a confrontation that led to president Washington, sending in troops to quell what some feared would turn into a true revolution, the opposition to the whiskey tax

Josh:

The whiskey rebellion is considered one of the first major tests of the authority of the new United States government.

Josh:

So 1794.

Josh:

When was the, when was the actual American revolution?

Josh:

Like 1776, right?

Josh:

76.

Josh:

So not even 14 years later, if my math is correct, which it never is they were like, all right, we've had enough of this.

Josh:

We're rebelling.

Josh:

It's a round two baby tax.

Josh:

Our

John:

whiskey it's over,

Josh:

you can tax our tea, but don't touch our goddamn whiskey, any drinks.

Josh:

So you guys really have a thing for drinks that seems like it shouldn't be taxed, man.

Josh:

They shouldn't be taxed.

Josh:

That's true.

Josh:

That's why you have the big slurps or whatever they're called.

Josh:

I don't know what they're called down there.

Josh:

Big drinks, big drinks, fast, fast food restaurants.

Josh:

They're huge.

Josh:

Oh, that stopped though.

Sean:

Oh, did it stop?

Sean:

Well, I feel like there's no supersize or anything.

Josh:

Oh shit.

Josh:

Where's the rebellion on

John:

that?

John:

32 ounces is like the biggest one we have now.

John:

That's still pretty

Sean:

fucking big.

John:

Not with sweet tea.

John:

My guy sweet tea is like the nectar of the gods.

John:

Sweet

Sean:

sweet tea is way

Josh:

too good.

Josh:

What does sweet to let just ice tea, so

Sean:

it's iced tea, but then that you just put a shit load of sugar in it,

Josh:

like an obscene amount of carriers.

Josh:

So just Canadian ice tea, then

John:

illegal legal

Josh:

crack.

Josh:

Pretty much.

Josh:

We just do that with all of our ice tea up here.

Josh:

That's what we do.

Josh:

You just put maple

John:

syrup on every tea that you have.

Josh:

So if I asked for it, so if I asked for an iced tea down there, it would not be sweet.

Josh:

Depends on

John:

what part of the country?

John:

Like

Sean:

Texas, Texas.

Sean:

Oh yeah.

Sean:

South is sweet teas, reign

Josh:

Supreme, but

Sean:

other places like if you go to New York and you ask for a tea, you're going to get like a, an unsweetened ice tea

Josh:

in a Starbucks cup.

Josh:

Right.

Josh:

That's New York probably problem.

Josh:

All right.

Josh:

So let's hop into what the whiskey tax actually was.

Josh:

So during the American revolution individual states occurred significant debt and in 1790 treasury secretary Alexander Hamilton.

Josh:

push for federal government to take over that debt from the states, he also suggested an exercise tax on whiskey to prevent further financial difficulty.

Josh:

So basically he was like, now that we're in the independent federal government, we should take the debt that the state's collected and then we should just tax to pay off their debts, you know?

Josh:

And it makes sense when you think about it.

Josh:

However, president George Washington was against Hamilton suggestion of a whiskey.

Josh:

But in 1791 Washington journey through Virginia and Pennsylvania to speak with citizens about their.

Josh:

Local government officials met the idea of a whiskey tax with enthusiasm and Washington took this as assurance back to Congress, which passed the bill.

Josh:

So as you can see there, he talked to the governments, not actually the people or the businesses or anything like that.

Josh:

So protest against the new tax began almost immediately are arguing that the tax was unfair to small producers.

Josh:

Which it was under the new law, large producers paid the tax annually at a rate of 6 cents per gallon.

Josh:

So the more they produce the further they got tax breaks, basically, however, small, small producers were stuck with paying 9 cents per gallon in taxes.

Josh:

So considerably more, especially since they're making less money, like it's just, it is unfair.

Josh:

I will give them that the idea is sound.

Josh:

They just.

Josh:

Did it went the capitalist way and was like, let's let large businesses do whatever the fuck they want and how much has

Sean:

changed

John:

again, the middle-class got to take shit from the

Josh:

upper.

Josh:

You gotta take, take the hit, you know because Jeff Bezos needs.

Josh:

almost monthly space trips at this point, which is ridiculous.

John:

It's treating that bitch like as an Uber ride.

Josh:

Manga.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

He texted the girl you up and then he goes to Elliot, get some alien, booty.

Josh:

What was his ex's name?

Josh:

I forget, but that's why he woke up.

Josh:

He knew he knew there was alien.

Josh:

No, no, no.

Josh:

That's that's Elon Musk.

Josh:

Oh, I don't know.

Josh:

She's apparently one of the richest people in the world.

Josh:

I don't know her name, but Grimes is no, no, no.

Josh:

Jeff basis is X spot to say, what the fuck has grind.

Josh:

She's going to

John:

have she got half didn't

Josh:

she, she did.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Damn.

Josh:

Get that bag.

Josh:

I think she's donated a lot of it to be fair, but.

Josh:

I mean, I mean,

Sean:

she was there from the beginning, so she deserves

Josh:

it anyways.

Josh:

She, she put up with him,

John:

Lex Luther looking

Josh:

motherfuckers.

Josh:

Fuck you.

Josh:

Jesus.

Josh:

so farmers obviously took further issue because only cash would be accepted for tax payment.

Josh:

Um, So you can do like an IOU or, or anything like that.

Josh:

Which many of the larger companies could do So that is basically the tax in itself.

Josh:

Now we're gonna move on to the violence that ensued afterwards.

Josh:

the law was an immediate failure since refusal to pay the taxes were as common as intimidations against officials hired to collect them.

Josh:

So you can imagine they're trying to collect taxes, but they're also paying officials to get the taxes.

Josh:

It's kind of balancing out, you know exercise officers were sent to collect the tax were met with defiance and threats of violence.

Josh:

Some producers refuse to pay the tax.

Josh:

Perhaps inevitably violence broke out on September 11th, 1791, never forget.

Josh:

Exercise officer Robert Johnson was riding through his collection route in Western Pennsylvania when he was surrounded by 11 men dressed as women.

Josh:

Which is, I don't know why they had to dress as a woman for that girl, John.

Josh:

I mean, if they were into that, that's, that's fine.

Josh:

But uh, it seems like it was part of their strategy, which I don't really understand.

Josh:

Why not just surround him.

Josh:

You're 11 guys.

Josh:

I think you could do it.

Josh:

Nevermind.

Josh:

You have a,

Sean:

what is it?

Sean:

Where the KKK were like, oh, we wearing the mask or we not wearing the mask.

Sean:

My wife wrote real hard on these mass.

Josh:

These guys were definitely racist, so that's probably good for sure.

Josh:

Good comparison chart or a shot.

Josh:

The mob stripped him naked and then tarred and feathered him before stealing his horse and abandoned him in the forest rough day for, for Robert Bob, as we call him.

Josh:

So Johnson recognized two men in the mob and he made complaints and warrants were issued for their arrest.

Josh:

A cattle drover named John Connor was sent.

Josh:

The widest name and the most cowboy name I've ever heard.

Josh:

He was sent to with warrants and then suffered the same fate as Johnson.

Josh:

He was tied to a tree in the woods for five hours before being found.

Josh:

Jeez, in response Johnson resigned his post in fear of further violence, which is fair.

Josh:

I would quit too.

Josh:

Yeah, that is way too much work for.

Josh:

Probably when he was getting paid.

Josh:

So the incidents escalated over the next few years and in 1793, the home of Pennsylvania exercise officer Benjamin Wells was broken into twice.

Josh:

The first time a mob of people forced their way in and assaulted Wells wife and children.

Josh:

Oh, that's too much.

Josh:

That's not good.

Josh:

That's not nice.

Josh:

Oh, the tar and feather was fine, but you got

Sean:

to draw the line.

Sean:

Yeah,

John:

you don't fuck with someone's family like that.

Josh:

Pick on someone your size, you know?

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

That's fair.

Josh:

The second incident involved, six men in disguise.

Josh:

It doesn't say what, but I like to imagine they were also dressed as women who attacked Wells while he was at home.

Josh:

The intruders demanded Wells, his account books at gunpoint and insisted he resigned his position.

Josh:

Which is again, a little too far to attack people in their homes for attacks that has nothing really to do with these people.

Josh:

They're just collecting it.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Um, Doing their job.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Yeah, exactly.

Josh:

Shitty job.

Josh:

But it is a shift

Sean:

collectors tax collectors have had a bad rep since like Bible times, man, you got to feel for them.

Sean:

They always list all the sinners and then tax collectors.

Sean:

I'm like, damn, it's just a job, bro.

Josh:

Like what did they do to be fair?

Josh:

It's all, it's mostly all government officials.

Josh:

They're kind of just universally here.

Josh:

Yeah, snakes.

Josh:

No, I'm just kidding.

Josh:

Don't John is a government official he's our CIA agent.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

He's here to spy on us cause we are of interest feeling unrepresented in Congress.

Josh:

The citizens of Western Pennsylvania gathered their own assembly with three to five representatives per county.

Josh:

Well radicle members.

Josh:

So, so this has got, they've just created their own government.

Josh:

They were like, oh, it work 20 years ago.

Josh:

We can just do it again.

Josh:

Right.

Josh:

Radical members, however, push for open rebellion, moderates like Hughes, Henry Brackenridge and future secretary of the us treasury Albert gallon, tine gallon, teen urge consultatory measures.

Josh:

So there's a, there's a small group.

Josh:

That's like, we should take this to the government.

Josh:

There's a group that's like, we'll make our own government.

Josh:

And then there's a group that's like, screw that.

Josh:

We're gonna kill our government and make them do what we want.

Josh:

So, you know, it's a, both sides issue kind of thing.

Josh:

this all culminated in what is known is the attack on Bauer.

Josh:

in the summer of 1794, federal Marshall David Lennox began the process of serving rights to 60 distilleries in Western Pennsylvania, who would not pay the tax on July 14th.

Josh:

Lennox accepted the services of tax collectors and wealthy landowner.

Josh:

John Neville, as a guide through owl Laney county.

Josh:

Um, I apologize if you're from there.

Josh:

I don't know how to pronounce um, on July 15th, they approached the home of William Miller who refused to accept his summons and argument and sued when Lennox and Neville wrote off, they were face-to-face with an angry mob, armed with pitchforks and muskets.

Josh:

Some were believed to be drunk.

Josh:

So you weren't far off at the, they had to be drunk to be in the service.

Josh:

Are they

John:

dressed like women still, or are just normally dressed,

Josh:

just assume every story in this they're dressed like women, because why not?

Josh:

It makes it more fun.

Josh:

I don't know.

John:

In my head, I just envisioning like a super buff golden light.

John:

Yeah,

Josh:

that'd be a rifle.

Josh:

That's a rebellion I can get behind, you know, that's hot.

Sean:

They probably want you to get behind them, Josh.

Josh:

Well, you know, if that's their thing uh, I uh, can't fault them for that, you know?

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

Enough, you know, who really

Josh:

knows what's what it's, it's all just bodies at some point.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Right.

Josh:

Flesh

Sean:

on flesh.

Josh:

That's why you watch wrestling shot.

Josh:

You better believe it.

Josh:

Fair enough.

Josh:

Someone had told the mob that the federal agents were dragging people away.

Josh:

They weren't, but that's what like a rumor that was going around.

Josh:

But Lennox and Neville were allowed to pass one This was understood to be untrue.

Josh:

nonetheless, a shot was fired as the two men ran away.

Josh:

It was probably just up in the air, but, you know, tensions start rising.

Josh:

You hear shots.

Josh:

You get a little bit worried on the morning of July 16th, Neville was asleep in his home on Bauer hill when he was awakened by a crowd of angry men, some of whom had been served summons the previous day.

Josh:

The men claimed that Lennox needed to come with them because there was a threat to his life.

Josh:

Neville didn't believe the men and ordered them off his property.

Josh:

when the mob refused Neville grabbed a gun and shot at the crowd striking and killing Oliver Miller.

Josh:

And of course in retaliation, the mob began to shoot back at his house.

Josh:

This guy has kahunas to be like, oh, there's a whole mob.

Josh:

And it's just me time to time to shoot them.

Josh:

Like what a.

Josh:

Dumb as Yeah.

Josh:

Well,

John:

dumb ass, dumb ass is probably

Josh:

the right word.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

If you, if you're outnumbered, probably best just unless your

Sean:

house is just prepared and it's just like an armory and you can, John wick.

Josh:

yeah, so, we get into that.

Josh:

It kind of does happen that way.

Josh:

Fun fact so Neville made is made it inside the house and sounded a signal horn after which he heard the sound of his slaves attacking the crowd with firearms because of course she had slaves.

Josh:

He's a white guy in the 17 hundreds.

Josh:

Just how it is.

Josh:

I

Sean:

wonder if like, they were just like, if they thought for a second, like, If we don't help him, are we free?

Sean:

Like

Josh:

Canada's not far away from here.

Josh:

That's what I'm saying.

Josh:

We can do this.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

I don't, I don't know.

Josh:

It's it is a weird

Sean:

power dynamic

Sean:

type

Josh:

of power dynamic, you know?

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Like your life is in the hands of this person who owns you.

Josh:

Yeah, I don't know.

Josh:

I'm not gonna lie.

Josh:

It probably did cross their mind, but who, who knows?

Josh:

Like, it's hard to say none of us have been slaves.

Josh:

We can't say what it be like.

Josh:

So regardless they ended up attacking the crowd with firearms as well.

Josh:

Six members of the mob were wounded before they fled with Miller's book.

Josh:

By evening, the mob had reconvened for a meeting with a group of other people who declared revenge on Neville.

Josh:

So they are planning another attack, which happens the next day.

Josh:

Yeah, they are uh, not patient people.

Josh:

I mean, there's summons.

Josh:

So there they're like, we only got a matter of time before I kind of go.

Josh:

Pay these taxes um, uh, on July 17th, 1794, as many as 700 men, March to drums and gathered at Neville's home, who they, yeah, they demanded his surrender, but major James Kirkpatrick, one of 10 soldiers who had come to the property to help defend it.

Josh:

So it is.

Josh:

Neville

John:

versus 700,

Josh:

his slaves, which I dunno how many they're BS, but let's say 20.

Josh:

And then 10 soldiers.

Josh:

40 to 50 people against 700.

Josh:

Let's see how this goes.

Josh:

It seems like it's gonna end poorly.

Josh:

Well The so James major, James Kirkpatrick had come to the property to help defend it and answered that Neville was not there.

Josh:

In fact Kirkpatrick had helped Neville escape the house and hidden or ravine.

Josh:

So he was actually not there.

Josh:

The mom demanded that the soldiers surrender when that request was refused, they set fire to a barn and slave dwellings.

Josh:

The Neville women were allowed to flee and safety after which the mob opened fire on the house.

Josh:

Following an hour of gun fighting.

Josh:

The mob's leader, James McFarland was killed.

Josh:

Cause he started shooting back in a rage, the mob set fire to other buildings and the soldiers soon surrendered as Bauer hill estate burned to the ground.

Josh:

It did not end there, however so less than a week later, because they're on a, they're on a tight schedule, you know, they may be drunks, but they,

John:

yeah, they got their, they got their outlook calendar, all sinked up pretty

Josh:

well.

Josh:

Lack accounts.

Josh:

We meet at 900 out there, slack.

Josh:

Again, we meet at 900 hours to, to attack Pittsburgh of all places.

Josh:

Have you guys been to Pittsburgh?

Josh:

No, either by I do

Sean:

want to get a sandwich from there.

Sean:

They have a sandwich from Primanti brothers, almost like a deli sandwich, but they put fries in it.

Sean:

I used to watch a

Josh:

lot of travel to.

Sean:

Probably borderline too much travel channel, but AML

John:

we're on the same boat.

John:

My guy, I think that diners drive-ins and dives and I saw from our good friend, Alex, from your distractions that you now have discovery plus in Canada, Josh.

John:

So people want to binge that in a ghost adventures.

Josh:

Nice.

Josh:

I just got bell TV, so maybe I'll have it on there.

Josh:

I'll check it out.

Josh:

Oh fuck.

Josh:

Is bell TV sounds like some Canadian issue.

Josh:

What is.

Josh:

Oh, it is our largest telecom network I will get into, I'll do that one at one episode.

Josh:

That is a fascinating tale about how three networks own our entire country.

Josh:

But anyway, oh my God.

Josh:

Okay.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

They're like the uh, what's the, what's the sh shitty telecom.

Josh:

You guys have Fox like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Josh:

Like the internet provider.

Josh:

Oh, Comcast, Comcast.

Josh:

That's it they're like our Comcast.

Josh:

But anyway, moving.

Josh:

I don't know how we got on the internet and, and Pittsburgh.

Josh:

Right?

Josh:

We're going to Pittsburgh to, sorry.

Josh:

Sorry.

Josh:

Sorry.

Josh:

That's okay.

Josh:

So less than a week later, the mob met with local dignitaries who warned that Washington would send a militia to strike them down and they had to strike first.

Josh:

Wealthy landowner David Bradford, along with several other men, attacked a mail carrier and discovered three letters from Pittsburgh expressing disapproval of the tack on Neville's property.

Josh:

Bradford used these letters as an excuse to encourage an attack on Pittsburgh inciting 7,000 men to show up at Braddock's field east of the city.

Josh:

Jeez.

Josh:

Well, they have 10 times the amount of men that they attacked the farm with, and now they're going to attack it entire city.

Josh:

Which if you think about it back then, though, there was a lot of people like that is a huge amount of people, huge militia

John:

take their fucking whiskey serious.

Sean:

But it's 3 cents a gallon.

Josh:

You're going to love this part.

Josh:

So the city of Pittsburgh fearing violence sent a delegation to announce that the three letter writers had been expelled from the city and offered a gift of several barrels of whiskey to the militia.

Josh:

As the day ended, the crowd had drunk deeply from the barrels and weren't inspired to descend on Pittsburgh with any.

Josh:

Instead, they gain permission to March through Pittsburgh peacefully.

Josh:

That sounds like a block party in Pittsburgh to

Sean:

have 7,000 drunk rebel.

Sean:

Rebel's fucking marching through our city.

Josh:

That's a good idea.

Josh:

Hammered.

Josh:

Oh, go wrong.

Josh:

But nothing actually went wrong.

Josh:

It was crying.

Josh:

Yeah, so they just March through the city that night and and nothing really happened other than they got drunk and, and peacefully protested.

Josh:

However with signs that the rebellion was going to reignite the conflict and believing it was linked to unrest in other parts of the country.

Josh:

So there was a few other parts of the country that were all.

Josh:

Wanting to rebel Hamilton wanted to send troops to Pennsylvania, but Washington opted for a peace Envoy.

Josh:

Instead, the peace Envoy inevitably failed clearly did they didn't bring whiskey with them.

Josh:

So Washington met with his cabinet officials and presented evidence of the violence to the Supreme court justice, James Wilson, who ruled the militia, a military response was just Justin.

Josh:

under the mill militia act of 1792 Washington assumed emergency power to assemble more than 12,000 men from the surrounding states in Eastern Pennsylvania as a federal militia a bit.

Josh:

Yeah, so he was like, I'm gonna just stop this out quick.

Josh:

So Washington met first with the rebels who assured him the militia was not.

Josh:

And that order had been restored Washington opted to retain the military option until proof of submission was apparent the large and well-armed militia marched into Western Pennsylvania and was met with angry citizens, but little violent.

Josh:

When a rebel army didn't appear the militia rounded up suspected rebels instead.

Josh:

Oh, they're like, well, we're here anyway.

Josh:

We might as well get something.

Josh:

Yeah, we're paying more taxes to get this army together.

Josh:

We might as well get some payment.

Josh:

However, the rebellions instigators had already fled and the militia prisoners weren't involved in the rebellion at all, and they over were still marched to Philadelphia to stand trial regardless.

Josh:

Only two men were found guilty and both were pardoned by Washington.

Josh:

So just kind of a, well, you're going to, we're just going to clean the slate, you know?

Josh:

So the federal response to the whiskey rebellion was widely believed to be a critical test of federal authority.

Josh:

One that Washington's fledgling government met with success.

Josh:

The whiskey tax that inspired the rebellion remained in effect until 1802, which then under the leadership of president Thomas Jefferson and the Republican party the tax was repealed after continuing to be almost impossible to collect because no one still paid it.

Josh:

And that my friends is the entirety of the whiskey rebellion group.

Josh:

Unrest a restless middle middle-class, middle to lower class alcohol producers getting angry, attacking people, getting drunk, parading through Phillip not Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, people from Pittsburgh.

Josh:

And I hate that.

Josh:

I confused the two.

Josh:

And then Washington just said, fuck you.

Josh:

Here's 12,000.

Josh:

And nothing inevitably happened other than what?

Josh:

Like two, three deaths, I think I said so, yeah, that is the whiskey rebellion.

Josh:

What are your guys' final thoughts on it?

John:

I feel like there's a, a modern version of this that could happen, but instead of whiskey, I have a feeling, people are going to do it with IPA rebellion or some shit.

Josh:

Oh, okay.

Josh:

I was going to say the John Deere rebuilt.

Josh:

They're having agents

Sean:

have a skewed version, vision of America, a John Deere

Josh:

rebellion.

Josh:

You guys are having you guys.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

You guys are having a John Deere strike right now.

Josh:

It's a big thing.

Josh:

Oh, oh really?

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

It's a huge thing right now.

Josh:

They're talking about, they don't want to work because well they're all in there getting fucked with pay, but yeah, basically that.

Josh:

Not getting compensated properly and or striking.

Josh:

So Dan, let me get some whiskey and this could be a rerun, right?

Sean:

Josh, you know more about American news

Josh:

than John or I I listened to a lot of good political podcasts, so that's fair.

Josh:

It's football

Sean:

season.

Sean:

The Astros are in the playoffs right now.

Sean:

Wedding NBA is back

Josh:

at the NHL.

Josh:

Who the fuck?

Josh:

What the fuck is that?

Josh:

Hockey?

Josh:

Sean, you guys have that as well.

Josh:

The Dallas stars.

Josh:

Okay.

Sean:

I don't support Dallas teams and I know John doesn't either.

John:

I don't either.

John:

I live here and I fucking hate all of them.

John:

God

Josh:

damn.

Josh:

The Dallas stars are okay.

Josh:

They're mediocre.

Josh:

I guess I'll give you that.

Josh:

We used

Sean:

to have a team in Houston, but not anymore.

Sean:

I remember when I was

Josh:

a kid.

Josh:

Did you

Sean:

cheat?

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

Houston arrows here, like green.

Sean:

We had an airplane logo.

Josh:

Oh, that's what the Winnipeg jets are now.

Josh:

They gross.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

I wouldn't want to be associated with Winnipeg either.

Sean:

Um, I guess, I mean, it's Texas.

Sean:

I imagine it'd be pretty hard to get a hockey crowd.

Sean:

Our soccer team won like four championships and it's still like nobody

Josh:

cares.

Josh:

Who cares?

Josh:

I mean, I guess.

Josh:

Middle of the summer, you know, ma or, well, I guess it's not the middle of summer, but you know, if there's a heat wave, it's cheaper than the AC.

Josh:

Just go to a game.

Josh:

Hey, my,

John:

my point stands about at least Texans.

John:

They only care about the balls.

John:

All right.

Josh:

Okay.

Josh:

So they should make the puck round is what you're saying.

Josh:

Yeah.

John:

Yeah.

John:

It was pretty much just, just make it like fucking rocket league and then maybe,

Josh:

Ooh, I'd watch that.

Josh:

Or twisted

John:

metal.

John:

That'd be kind of cool too.

John:

I think people care about that.

Josh:

They're making a movie on that, I think.

Josh:

Or TV shoe.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

I heard that can leak.

Josh:

Well, I can't imagine how it would be good, but you can only do so

John:

much.

John:

It would

Josh:

crashing cars.

Josh:

The fast and furious are on like episode nine.

Josh:

Oh, that's true.

Josh:

You can do it speaking

Sean:

totally off topic, but speaking of fast and furious, isn't not wild.

Sean:

How they went from stealing DVDs in the first movie to be fucking super agent CIA tech people.

Sean:

In the span of like 20 years.

Sean:

How is that even

John:

remotely possible?

John:

It's because their family.

John:

Okay.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Family is all Shauna.

Josh:

How do you think this podcast survives?

Josh:

We're family.

Josh:

All right.

Josh:

Yes.

Josh:

We might not like it, but

Sean:

I thought it was the blood contracts we all signed when

Josh:

we started this thing.

Josh:

That too, but that's mostly just so John can do his puns.

Josh:

It was in the contract.

Josh:

Goddammit.

Josh:

All right.

Josh:

Well that was the whiskey rebellion.

Josh:

I hope you enjoyed that.

Josh:

What would you call that?

Josh:

A minor.

Josh:

Rebellion after the rebellion?

Josh:

Well, it was lit, you

John:

know what I mean?

John:

Yeah.

John:

They, they kind of had their fun, they were trying

Sean:

to ride the high of America's freedom and it didn't work out the way they wanted

Josh:

it to.

Josh:

Yeah, it's true.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

It's your second or third best rebellion?

Josh:

Um, The second or third, the other second or third I would say was in January.

Josh:

That's my shocking.

John:

We're fucking doing a rebellion draft coming at a number one

Josh:

tea party.

Josh:

We love our tea.

Josh:

You guys don't actually like tea, but anyway, we T that's true.

Josh:

We did talk about tea, sweet tea.

Josh:

I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.

Josh:

Tea,

Sean:

risk Africa with a bridge.

John:

You know what I mean?

John:

Hey, I just ordered like a bunch of shit from David's tea from isn't.

John:

Isn't that a Canadian way.

John:

I have a subscription with David's tea.

Josh:

All right.

Josh:

Hell yeah.

Josh:

What do you get?

John:

Just a box of everything.

John:

Okay.

John:

Okay.

John:

Like a fuck.

John:

I

Josh:

am a tea guy.

Josh:

That's I like tea.

Josh:

Like I'll have tea pretty often, but I stick to like my orange Pico and green tea.

Josh:

Know my mom, man.

Josh:

Okay.

Josh:

That's fair.

Josh:

You know what?

Josh:

I can't hate it.

Josh:

What about you, Sean?

Josh:

Are you more like Ted lasso?

Josh:

Need a coffee coffee all day.

Josh:

I do coffee in the morning tea at night

Sean:

respectable.

Sean:

I do, I do iced coffee in the more.

Sean:

Two espresso shots after lunch

Josh:

and then a D whiskey at night, baby,

John:

you better believe it.

John:

Shots and thoughts.

Josh:

And then I go to Pittsburgh

Sean:

and they welcomed

Josh:

me with open arms or like Sean's bag again, must be Saturday

Sean:

for his weekly peaceful.

Josh:

Whiskey.

Josh:

What

John:

do you do that shit to IRS, man, it's be like, don't fucking charge me tax

Josh:

this year.

Sean:

It'll probably end the same way where we get stomped out.

Sean:

And

Josh:

then everybody forgets that this happened.

Josh:

They're like we have nukes and drones.

Josh:

Like, yeah.

Josh:

You're not you guys.

Josh:

Aren't winning that.

Josh:

One of our worries.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Yeah, exactly.

Josh:

All right, we're going to take a quick outbreak and then we are going to get into be eating these horrendous candies and talking about who won the candy tier list.

Josh:

So John, can you please have that pulled up for us?

Josh:

All right.

Josh:

And we are back.

Josh:

It is time for my least favorite part of every episode is when I cop to losing another challenge.

Josh:

So John, while I start consuming these, and if you're on YouTube, you can watch me do it.

Josh:

And I guess I'm not going to eat into the mic cause that's probably gross for everyone.

Josh:

No, no, no, no,

Sean:

no, no.

Sean:

ASMR.

Sean:

We want to hear

Josh:

it the here.

Josh:

All right.

Josh:

For the first couple, I'll do it.

Josh:

And then so trigger warning for anyone who hates mouth noises here comes sinful.

Josh:

A full handful.

Sean:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

John:

Fist didn't put in your mouth.

John:

There you go.

John:

Oh yeah.

John:

Oh yeah.

John:

Hi, coming, coming in third place,

Josh:

um, Was just gross.

Josh:

I love seeing that texture isn't even there, like it's like in between chalk and jelly fucking disgusting.

Josh:

Oh, my God swallow Josh.

Josh:

Hey, I don't even have to.

Josh:

It's kind of dissolving in my mouth.

Josh:

That's what we like to hear my teeth.

Josh:

I'll take another drink and then I'll have another handful.

Josh:

I don't know if I can eat all these, but I'll have a cup of another handful.

John:

So while Josh is drinking, we're going to do a recap of who came in third, second, and first.

John:

So coming in third place, obviously you just saw him eat a mouthful or a handful of, of candy corn.

John:

His list was jelly beans, boy, black and purple jelly beans.

John:

m&ms Skittles, Snickers, and Mars bars coming in.

John:

Third place.

John:

Joshie boy, uncle Beatty.

John:

I'm

Josh:

sorry, everyone for, well, actually, no, you apologize to me.

Josh:

You're making me do this

John:

and coming in second place, he had a hundred grand Snickers Twix, peanut M and M's.

John:

And Reese's is it Reese's pieces?

John:

I've always called it Reeses PCs.

Sean:

Who the fuck says receives PCs.

John:

I've always called it like Reeses PCs.

Josh:

I don't know.

Josh:

It sounds fucking funny.

Josh:

All right.

Josh:

Anyways,

John:

these are coming in second place.

John:

It's your boy, Sean,

Sean:

it's your boyish.

Sean:

Uh,

John:

And of course the winner, the always so popular on social media with his selection of Twizzlers Kit-Kat Twix, knickers and sour patch.

John:

Watermelons.

John:

Josh is dying.

Josh:

Fucking gross.

John:

I'm the winner.

John:

Your poppy.

Sean:

So we have father Josh and poppy.

Sean:

John.

John:

No, it's uncle Josh.

John:

Oh, uncle Jack.

John:

Not even uncle Josh, uncle BJ.

Josh:

Oh, Chris.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Uncle candy, corn

John:

choking,

Josh:

fasting, just an aftertaste in my mouth.

Josh:

I can't even get it out.

Josh:

God damn.

Josh:

That's what she said.

Josh:

It's coating my mouth.

Josh:

That's what she said.

Josh:

I knew this segment would lead to a lot of that.

Josh:

So she said jokes and I wasn't disappointed.

Josh:

I think that's all I gotta do.

Josh:

That is awesome.

Josh:

That's horrendous.

Josh:

That's also what she said,

Josh:

oh God, just me.

Josh:

Well, I hope you enjoyed my suffering wicket maniacs.

Josh:

Luckily the next suffering is Shaun because we still have to watch a scary movie, which we will do sometime we just have not have time.

Josh:

So him and I, and maybe John, I don't know, we'll do a recap on, on a scary movie episode.

Josh:

Okay, John Donald join, you might not have to watch it.

Josh:

But that is it for this episode, WCA maniacs.

Josh:

What did you think of the whiskey rebellion?

Josh:

Was it as great or greater than the American revolution?

Josh:

That is the poll.

Josh:

I want to put an

Sean:

unnecessary poll of all time.

Josh:

I think it could go either way.

Josh:

I think people enjoy whiskey and getting drunk in Pittsburgh.

Josh:

So.

Josh:

You know, whiskey or tea, that's kind of the that's.

Josh:

That should be the poll whiskey or at T make two poles.

Josh:

John, John just do all these things for me.

Josh:

Yes.

Josh:

So yeah, so American revolution or whiskey rebellion and then tea or a whiskey are the two poles.

Josh:

I want to see what kind of listeners we have, whether they're cool.

Josh:

Or cooler and LA nice.

Josh:

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Josh:

And finally, as I said before, if you want more episodes, consider supporting the show to get ad free episodes and get episodes a week early, but on top of that, We're also doing bonus episodes at least once a month, maybe more.

Josh:

We'll see how our schedule goes.

Josh:

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Josh:

And we, we appreciate anyone who has signed up as always links to everything I mentioned are in the show notes.

Josh:

Thank you, WCA maniacs, and we will see you next week.

Josh:

I'm going to go dump out all these candy corns.

John:

Listen to our podcast.

John:

Are you going to get whiskey?

Josh:

At a whiskey Dick joking, not once John, you're waiting this whole time.

Josh:

I

Sean:

saved

Josh:

it for last.

Josh:

Okay.

Josh:

You saved the worst for last.

Josh:

All right.

Josh:

Peace out

Sean:

later.