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Jan. 10, 2022

The Problems with NFTs


Sup Wikimaniacs?! It's yuh boy, Sean, back at it again. This time we're talking about the potential problems that come with NFTs! Plus we take a slight break from erotic fan fiction...but we end with something equally as amazing/terrible!

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_non-fungible_tokens

https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/rho91b/whats_up_with_the_nft_hate/

https://www.reddit.com/r/sadcringe/comments/qhcuem/nft_dude_thinks_he_can_stop_people_from/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/qevevm/not_tinfoiling_but_i_found_this_amusing_the/

https://www.reddit.com/r/technews/comments/rffv73/bored_ape_nft_accidentally_sells_for_3000_instead/

https://www.reddit.com/r/shitposting/comments/rjovya/my_collection_of_screenshoted_nfts/

https://www.reddit.com/r/tumblr/comments/qmgb0f/nft/

https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/rbh9zi/found_in_rteenagers/

https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/rga1do/women_of_reddit/

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Transcript
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The following podcast contains adult language and

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Some topics may contain graphic details.

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you being here.

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So please

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enjoy the show.

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2022.

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Welcome wicked maniacs.

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It's 2022.

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It's your boy, Sean hosting for the first time this year.

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Josh.

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John, what is up?

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My dude's bullets.

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Yeah, we're not bullies, but

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questionable bullies.

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We're going to move on.

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Wicked maniacs.

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Welcome to another episode of a Reddit on Wiki, where we researched

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things using Wikipedia and Reddit as our primary sources of research.

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Yes.

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I said research using research.

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It doesn't matter.

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We're moving forward.

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We're moving past it.

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Shawn, a

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new year old shot, new year's

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same me, I guess, as you

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guys know.

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Maybe season three,

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if season two ever ends, if season one ever ends, who really

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fucking knows at this point, but as you guys know, uh, it's your boy, Sean,

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I don't do scripts all off the dome.

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We're going to start the first half in Wikipedia.

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Then we're going to go to ad break.

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So you guys can pay us and rate us five stars, and then we're

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going to go to the Reddit section.

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All right.

Sean:

So starting off hot today's topic and F teas.

Sean:

So not just what are NFTs, but uh, what are the problems with

Sean:

NFTs and why they're problematic.

Sean:

If you want to know a detailed explanation into what NFTs are

Sean:

a fun fact, you can go back to.

Sean:

The season two finale of shots and thoughts, the live Twitch episode, where

Sean:

I took 13 to 14 shots of straight liquor.

Sean:

Uh, so I don't know how detailed that is of an explanation

Sean:

to be quite honest with you.

Sean:

But, um, I think we got the point across, so you can go listen to that, but, uh,

Sean:

John Josh, 2021 was the you of the NFT.

Sean:

What do you guys know about it?

Josh:

Uh, does NFT mean no further

Sean:

texts?

Sean:

Definitely not, definitely not.

Sean:

Is Jansport in hand

John:

or tall face?

Sean:

Definitely not.

Josh:

Uh, I think it stands for non fungible tokens.

Sean:

That is

Josh:

correct.

Josh:

Josh.

Josh:

That is correct.

Josh:

Yes.

Josh:

I'm a finance

Sean:

bro.

Sean:

Wow, nice.

Sean:

I frequently visit a Reddit R slash uh,

Josh:

stocks.

Josh:

Finances.

Josh:

I have lost millions this year.

Sean:

I Claire.

Sean:

That's right.

Sean:

Josh, an NFT is a non fungible token.

Sean:

Does that mean anything to either of y'all what the fuck is fungible?

Sean:

I'm going to get into that

Josh:

fun guy, like, like a mushroom.

Josh:

Is

Sean:

it a mushroom?

Sean:

But there are no, I mean, there could be mushrooms involved in a NFT, but not

Sean:

specifically in the, uh, definition.

Sean:

So.

Sean:

I should probably just hop straight into it.

Sean:

Huh?

Sean:

Oh wait, wait, wait, wait.

Sean:

Before we do that, we got to do the housekeeping stuff.

Sean:

I never do that, but 20, 22, it's a new me.

Sean:

Housekeeping.

Sean:

Here we go.

Sean:

What's your housekeeping on, uh, the fucking house, you know, um, guys, before

Sean:

we get started, if you want to go ahead and give us a five star review, you

Sean:

could do that, uh, through Spotify, good pods, pod, chase, or apple podcasts,

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all of that shit and our website too.

Sean:

I figured that out, you could do that on our website.

Sean:

So if you haven't done that already, go ahead and do that.

Sean:

Uh, they could, they could

Josh:

also give us four, three stars.

Josh:

I don't

Sean:

care.

Sean:

Don't do that.

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That's fine.

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But if you do that, you are a contract truly obligated to, uh,

Sean:

pay for the $10 tier on our Patrion.

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So rate wisely,

Josh:

we will find you,

Sean:

we will find you and we will take.

Josh:

And moving honorable

Sean:

fungible tokens and your fucking fungible tokens.

Sean:

They are mine now.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

So let's get into a brief description into what an NMT is, and then I'll

Sean:

go into the problems with the NFTs.

Sean:

Okay.

Sean:

So you guys are coming into this blind.

Sean:

Y'all know nothing about NFTs.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

I don't have 2020 vision.

Sean:

Ah, okay.

Sean:

I got you.

Sean:

I got you.

Sean:

It took me a while.

Sean:

Took me a while.

Sean:

Right, right, right, right, right.

Sean:

Okay.

Sean:

So an NFT or a non fungible token is a unique and non interchangeable

Sean:

unit of data stored on a blockchain, which is a form of digital ledger.

Sean:

And if Ts can be associated with reproducible digital files,

Sean:

such as photos, videos, and.

Sean:

And FTS use a digital ledger to provide a public certificate of authenticity,

Sean:

authenticity, or proof of ownership, but do not restrict the sharing or

Sean:

copying of the underlying digital files.

Sean:

The lack of interchangeability, uh, parentheses fungibility distinguishes NFTs

Sean:

from blockchain cryptocurrencies, such as Bitcoin and MTS have drawn criticism

Sean:

with respect to the energy cost and carbon footprint associated with validating

Sean:

blockchain transactions, as well as their frequent use in art scams, further

Sean:

criticisms challenged the usefulness of establishing proof of ownership and an

Sean:

often extra legal unregulated market.

Sean:

So does that make sense to you guys at all?

Sean:

If not, I kind of can explain it.

Josh:

Okay.

Josh:

Let me take it a dumb way.

Josh:

So.

Josh:

NFTs are a digital product of some sort that you can trade back and

Josh:

forth and they're worth of value.

Josh:

And when you do that, you basically write it in a ledger saying

Josh:

that this person now owns this.

Josh:

Is that kind of what?

Josh:

Like a digital ledger, I guess, pretty close.

Sean:

John, what

John:

did you, but did it say that you can share it?

Sean:

So here, here in lies, one of the, and I'll get more into it

Sean:

when I read more of the Wikipedia, but essentially what NFT is, is

Sean:

imagine, uh, you make an NFT, right?

Sean:

And you make a, an, a digital painting and we'll say that's an NFT currently.

Sean:

That is worth nothing.

Sean:

It's just a piece of art it's worth it's worth.

Josh:

Okay.

Sean:

It's okay.

Sean:

You want your makeup?

Sean:

You make a beautiful piece of art.

Josh:

Can we each do a digital art and post

Sean:

it?

Sean:

It's going to be a Dick.

Sean:

Goddammit.

Sean:

Oh, join us for our Patrion.

Sean:

When we play a Jackbox games and draw nothing but dicks on those gal.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

I'll be alone.

Sean:

But uh, so say we make a painting, right.

Sean:

And that we make an NFT of a digital drawing.

Sean:

And then, uh, somebody is like, oh, I like this piece of art.

Sean:

That's worth $10.

Sean:

And then now everybody knows, oh, that piece of art is worth

Sean:

$10 and then it can go up.

Sean:

It could go down essentially, blah, blah, blah.

Sean:

Kind of like a, I know John hates sneakers.

Sean:

I don't know your stance on Josh, but like a pair of sneakers, like pair of

Sean:

Jordans or we'll, we'll go Kanye west.

Sean:

That's that's probably the most crazy ones.

Sean:

Yeezys.

Sean:

They retail for two 20.

Sean:

That shoe is worth $220.

Sean:

But the hype and the demand for it and people buying it and selling it, there,

Sean:

there, the resell value, which is the actual value, or depending on the UC

Sean:

will go for, let's say like a thousand dollars, holy shit, something like that.

Sean:

But

John:

that's a physical product.

Sean:

That's a physical product.

Sean:

This is, this is what makes it even dumber than buying Yeezy's.

Sean:

This is a, this is a digital product.

Sean:

Now you can just fucking screenshot, right?

Sean:

So really technically when you screenshot it, you don't own it, but

Sean:

the NFT is not even really the picture.

Sean:

It's just proof that you own the picture that can be copied by anybody else.

Sean:

So really, I don't understand.

Sean:

Yeah, that that's why, uh, what fungible means financial finance bro

Sean:

wise, is that a Bitcoin, every Bitcoin is fungible because every Bitcoin can

Sean:

be interchanged with another Bitcoin.

Sean:

All Bitcoins are created equal, right.

Sean:

And FTS are non fungible because one NFT does not equal another hen Ft.

Sean:

Oh, okay.

John:

So me coming in and like listening to that finale that you

John:

guys did on end up back in season two, I was actually on that live one.

John:

You guys were opening up NBA top shot.

John:

Yes.

John:

Right.

John:

And I.

John:

Even though I listened to that.

John:

I still couldn't wrap my head around it.

John:

It was pretty much opening basketball, like virtual basketball packs of NBA

John:

moments where it's an essentially a fucking YouTube clip of a moment.

John:

Exactly.

John:

Right.

John:

And it's like $500 for let's say, I don't know.

John:

I bet you, if Steph Curry had the, you know, when he broke the three-pointer

Sean:

record.

Sean:

Oh, you got to believe that's a top shot right now.

Sean:

Right?

John:

That's probably like worth,

Sean:

I don't know, maybe millions or the.

Sean:

Yeah,

John:

yeah.

John:

For an essentially like something that you can clip on YouTube and then just

John:

put on a nice little canvas fucking

Sean:

background.

Sean:

Exactly.

Sean:

Is that what it is?

Sean:

That what an NMT is like an NFT.

Sean:

So an NBA top shot, that is a version of an NFT, right?

Sean:

So you buy like a pack of these top shot things and then you open up a pack and

Sean:

then it, it comes out looking like a playing card, but then it's like a cube.

Sean:

And then the key rotates to the description of the stat.

Sean:

It showcases like a logo for the type of pack.

Sean:

And then the other side of the cube will be like the clip of the play.

Sean:

And that's what you, that's the NFT.

Sean:

But really the, the main thing is the clip of the play.

Sean:

And the clip of the play is fucking, you can find that shit on YouTube.

Sean:

You can.

Sean:

Yeah, you can.

Sean:

So really,

Josh:

so this is kind of gray in the area between ownership in like the modern day,

Josh:

like the digital world, you know, what.

Josh:

So this is something that actually like, um, I have a few photographer friends and

Josh:

they have this issue when they like put their photos up on a website to sell it.

Josh:

Yup.

Josh:

Um, they own that, but there's nothing, there's not stopping anything

Josh:

from someone just screenshotting that image and then repurposing

Josh:

that for whatever they want now.

Josh:

So there gets the gray area of, do you really own yours shit, right.

Josh:

Or can someone just take it, upload it somewhere out like this podcast,

Josh:

someone could just take this podcast, throw it up on a YouTube channel.

Josh:

I don't know, but like they could do that.

Josh:

Right.

Josh:

But, um, but they got for nothing and it's like, where does, where does proof

Josh:

of ownership and, and when does it begin?

Josh:

Like, it's a very.

Josh:

It's kind of getting into full-on philosophical question.

Sean:

The internet is still very much like the fucking wild west.

Sean:

There are no rules for better or for worse.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

Correct.

Sean:

Could I ask

John:

a follow-up question with what Josh said?

John:

Yeah.

John:

So for example, like going on with the NBA top shot thing again, you know, those

John:

clips are owned by the NBA, correct?

John:

Yes.

John:

Yep.

John:

By you buying the NMT, do you now have owner rights to that specific clip?

Sean:

See, I don't think so because you're not going to get, you're not, you're

Sean:

not going to get paid for every time.

Sean:

They, this is what we thought originally like, oh shit.

Sean:

Do you get paid every time?

Sean:

Like you get like a YouTube play.

Sean:

Like if they play that clip on YouTube, do you get paid?

Sean:

No, I think your name is just on this YouTube description as owning

Sean:

the clip, but you don't like it, but again, since it's so easily

Sean:

replaceable, you don't own the clip.

Sean:

You just have you own the receipt to the.

Josh:

Right.

Josh:

So you just, that's weird.

Sean:

So it's like, why is that?

Sean:

The NFT is just, today's fucking hype beast for sneakers or clothing

Sean:

or anything, but it's not physical.

Sean:

So which makes it sort of worse because at least I have

Sean:

my stupid ass pairs of Yeezys.

Sean:

I can hold them.

Sean:

I can hold them, wear them.

Sean:

You can't copy and paste these.

Sean:

You can buy another pair, but you know what I mean?

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

I guess I could put them on and

Sean:

then you could put them on me and you can run away.

Sean:

I mean, I wear all my, I wear all my shoes.

Sean:

I'm not like the sneaker heads, though.

Sean:

If that makes you feel better about my stupid spending habits,

Sean:

I want to fund you my tokens, man.

Sean:

You want, but then we'll get later into this.

Sean:

If you make a fungible token, then you know, it's going to be a one for

Sean:

one, most NFTs are made by artists thinking they could make money,

Sean:

but then surprise you not really.

Sean:

Okay,

Josh:

so fall, fall a few follow up questions.

Josh:

Um, so if you own that clip, that Steph Curry, three point

Josh:

shot, you own a clip like that.

Josh:

You buy a bunch and then you get a bunch of Steph Curry, three point shots.

Josh:

Could you then upload that on YouTube as a montage and not get

Josh:

claimed because you technically own

Sean:

those clips.

Sean:

I guess if he's green record, the top shot and like go through all of your

Sean:

top shot cards, who's to say, you know, that's, that's not fine illegal.

Sean:

Cause he owned those.

Josh:

You own those clips,

Sean:

right?

Sean:

Technically speaking.

Sean:

Yes.

Sean:

But now the only way we could do this is if we go right now, buy an NBA top shot.

Sean:

And if I can upload that shit to you,

Josh:

I think this might be a test.

Josh:

We're going to try this.

Josh:

I think now

Sean:

technically still has his and he was like, I really should've sold that.

Sean:

Oh my God, there's a lamp on this desk.

Sean:

I accidentally turned it off and I don't know how to turn.

Sean:

Oh, just kidding.

Sean:

Okay.

Sean:

But Ryan was like, I should've sold that fucking NBA top shop, like then.

Sean:

Cause it was hot then.

Sean:

Cause it, yeah, it was the peak.

Sean:

It was the absolute peak.

Sean:

And it was Tyler Herro.

Sean:

Who is uh, who was in the finals at the time.

Sean:

Was that, was that 20, 20?

Sean:

Oh my God.

Sean:

Jesus Christ.

Sean:

Season two was a long time ago.

Josh:

Um, fuck.

Josh:

I was gonna ask something else.

Sean:

No, that was 20, 21.

John:

No, 2020 was the finals with the heat and the Lakers.

John:

That was July 20, 20.

Sean:

Oh.

Sean:

But when we opened the top shot, Tyler Herro was still popping I guess.

Sean:

Cause that was definitely this year.

Sean:

Cause that's, that's what I, I had already met you John.

Sean:

I didn't, I didn't really meet you until December 20, 20.

Sean:

Oh we had, I was this year.

Sean:

Yeah, because we were nominated for all those awards.

Sean:

Oh, that's right.

Sean:

Oh, that one was like March dude.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

And then we also lost all those awards together.

Sean:

6, 6, 6, 6, 8, whatever, whatever.

Sean:

So you didn't give you getting nominated

John:

God

Josh:

dammit.

Josh:

Does Caucasian not

Sean:

care?

Sean:

No, you have enough

Josh:

Josh.

Josh:

You're right.

Josh:

You're right.

Josh:

We just talked about this last episode.

Sean:

Okay.

Sean:

So now that we, any more questions before we go into the Wikipedia

Sean:

of why they are initiating?

Josh:

Oh, I guess my L my last comment was, I guess it's just kind of the new,

Josh:

uh, like you said, I guess Yeezy's, but it's just the stock market over again.

Josh:

You're hoping things go up and, you know, the, the demand will judge, whether it's

Josh:

worth more or worth less, and it's more of a gamble than actually owning something.

Josh:

I guess that's the whole concept.

Sean:

Exactly.

Sean:

NBA top shot felt exactly like stocks.

Sean:

Cause you were like.

Sean:

Like any kind of market news, you know, a card at that time, a card

Sean:

could fucking boost up in value.

Sean:

Like you could have one game.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

You could have a fucking card.

Sean:

If some shitty player hits, it was worth nothing.

Sean:

But then that shitty player breaks some kind of like weird record, some kind

Sean:

of statistical record boom up in value.

Sean:

And then you spec out and you make money back in GameStop.

Josh:

So it was just stocks basically.

Josh:

Yeah, it is stocks.

Sean:

Okay.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

But like kind of fake stocks is real money.

Sean:

Fake stocks.

Josh:

Yeah, I got ya, I guess.

Sean:

Okay.

Sean:

So here are the issues and criticisms as listed on the NFT

Sean:

fungible or the NFT Wikipedia page.

Sean:

Okay.

Sean:

Issue number one, storage off-chain and FTS involving digital art generally do

Sean:

not store the file on the blockchain due to its size, the token functions

Sean:

in a way more similar to a certificate certificate of ownership with a web

Sean:

address pointing to the piece of art.

Sean:

In question, making the art still subject to link rot, because NFTs are functionally

Sean:

separate from the underlying artworks.

Sean:

Anybody can easily save a copy of an NFTs image, popular popularly through a

Sean:

right-click NFT supporters, disparaged the di this duplication of NMT artwork as

Sean:

quote right clicker mentality, and quote with one collector, comparing the value of

Sean:

a purchased NFT to that of a status symbol quote, to show off that they can afford

Sean:

to pay that much and quote the right.

Sean:

Quick, the white quicker mentality, the right click on the white

Josh:

clicker.

Josh:

I see what this is going shopping.

Sean:

I'm a, I'm coming back at you for the, uh, all the

Sean:

Neander tall descriptions.

Josh:

You know what I think we're deserving

Sean:

the ride clicker mentality phase spread via virally through

Sean:

its introduction, particularly among those who are critical of the

Sean:

NFT marketplace, who used the term to flaunt, the ability to capture

Sean:

digital art backed by NFTs with ease.

Sean:

This criticism was prompted by Australian programmer, Jeffrey

Sean:

Huntley, who created the quote NMT bay and quote modeled after the pocket.

Sean:

Pirate bay website, uh, the NFTE bay advertised a torrent file

Sean:

purported to contain 19 terabytes of digital art NFT images only

Sean:

compared his work to an art project from Pauline pants down, crazy name.

Sean:

And, and I hope that the site would help educate users on what NFTs are and are not

Sean:

face up pants down, Pauline pants down.

Sean:

That's nice.

Sean:

I hope that's real.

Sean:

That's fucking awesome.

Sean:

Okay, so that's concern.

Sean:

Number one, concern.

Sean:

Number two are the environmental concerns.

Sean:

So NMT purchases and sales are in meshed in a controversy regarding

Sean:

high energy usage and the consequent greenhouse gas emissions associated

Sean:

with blockchain transactions.

Sean:

A major aspect of this is the proof of work protocol required to regulate

Sean:

and verify blockchain transactions on networks, such as Ethereum, which

Sean:

consumes a large amount of electricity estimating the carbon footprint of a given

Sean:

NFT transaction involves a variety of assumptions about the manner in which the

Sean:

transaction is set up on the blockchain, the economic behavior of blockchain

Sean:

miners, as well as the amount of renewable energy used on these networks.

Sean:

I'm not going to lie to you guys.

Sean:

That was like a five line run-on sentence, Wikipedia.

Sean:

Be crazy like that.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

I, this, this I do know about because, and this gets into a

Josh:

longer story of why hate Elon Musk.

Sean:

Let it, let it go.

Sean:

Baby long story,

Josh:

basically, uh, at the beginning of this year, when GameStop was

Josh:

popping off, you know, everyone's talking finances, you get interested

Josh:

because it's on every goddamn podcasts.

Josh:

Every God damn YouTube channel your wife.

Josh:

And so I'm like, oh,

Sean:

some people might buy at the absolute peak and

Sean:

still hold it to this day.

Sean:

But continue,

Josh:

who

Sean:

would do that?

Sean:

Definitely not of Neanderthal.

Josh:

Uh, um, so

Sean:

you Griff dude, and they're tall advice.

Sean:

No one would listen.

Sean:

Why would anyone

Josh:

finance?

John:

I was gonna say, call NMT, meander tall finance

Sean:

talks.

Sean:

Ooh.

Sean:

Now I can buy at peak, sell it.

Josh:

We talked about it.

Josh:

They weren't dumb.

Sean:

There'd be socially awkward, which would make them not very good at

Josh:

no, that'd be great at, uh, being in their mom's basement buying stocks.

Josh:

Um, so, so yeah, so I looked into Bitcoin and Ethereum because I was

Josh:

like, oh, like these are going up.

Josh:

They've been going up.

Josh:

Years now.

Josh:

Um, yeah, I'll buy a couple and, or not, not a couple of

Josh:

Bitcoin, but you know what I mean?

Josh:

Like fucking rich 0.0 0, 0 1, 3% or whatever it was.

Josh:

Um, and, uh, just see where it goes.

Josh:

And then, so I buy that in like April, so I hold onto it.

Josh:

It's going up.

Josh:

I make probably a couple dollars and then Ilan tweets that they will no

Josh:

longer be taking Bitcoin, uh, as, as, uh, like forms of money because

Josh:

of the environmental impact and Bitcoin stocks plummeted, vomited.

Josh:

And I lost a huge amount of money.

Josh:

I didn't put a ton in, right off the bat, but like, it was enough to be

Josh:

like, well, I'm never doing this again.

Sean:

I was.

Sean:

Yeah, mid to late 2020.

Sean:

I was, I was doing stocks to not great at it.

Sean:

You know, cause day trading during a job is ill advise ill advise,

Sean:

guys don't do it during work.

Sean:

You will miss something and then lose a lot.

Sean:

But, uh, yeah, it it's insane how much power Elon Musk has on the market.

Sean:

He will say, he will say, uh, I think he tweeted exactly this one time.

Sean:

I think he said Tesla stock is way too high.

Sean:

Then it fucking plummeted.

Sean:

Everybody that bought Tesla stock was owned.

Sean:

And guess who was also a part of that man of tall baby?

John:

I think I only bought like stocks, like a few times.

John:

I was just like, you know, I'm going buy a doge coins as a joke.

John:

I put in like 50 bucks and I'm to this day, I'm like, oh, I still

John:

have like, you know, $700 left on.

Sean:

Oh shit.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

Put in $50 and you made 700.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

Jesus.

Sean:

You're better than Sean who doing a way better than me.

Sean:

Way more interesting how Patrick was.

Sean:

Whiling out.

Sean:

Damn.

Sean:

I have a lot of friends.

Sean:

I don't know if they want to be named for doing well in the stock.

Sean:

Cause he know.

Sean:

And when you do well, people ask you questions and shit, you know, advice.

Sean:

And they don't want to be hassled, but I had a lot of friends that came

Sean:

up big and like quit their jobs.

Sean:

Oh shit.

Sean:

2020 was the absolute wildest time to fucking be

Josh:

in there.

Josh:

Meanwhile, we all started a podcast.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Yeah.

Sean:

I'm begging for $10 patrons saying I'll do anything on a video.

Sean:

So that's where I'm at right now.

Josh:

We won't let Sean handle the money.

Josh:

So

Sean:

Ilan said, Tesla's going up, baby.

Sean:

We just need Ilan to tweet about us one time.

Sean:

Fuck Ilan, man.

Josh:

That's what I started.

Josh:

Hating him.

John:

Sell it, man.

John:

You gotta sell it.

John:

Nah,

Josh:

man, he listened.

Josh:

He controls way too much power and he's just like a fucking four year old.

Sean:

Yeah, he has way too much power.

Sean:

It's insane.

Sean:

It's like comical, like, and I've lost.

Sean:

I haven't lost a ton of money cause I never put in a 10.

Sean:

Right.

Sean:

AKA scared money don't make money.

Sean:

But, but the few times I did get hit.

Sean:

I was like, oh, cause I was up in Tesla quite a bit.

Sean:

And then he said, LOL, Tesla's stock too high now.

Sean:

It's huge

Josh:

again.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

It's huge.

Josh:

I'm still in that bitch, man.

Sean:

Never.

Sean:

I'm a Disney too.

Sean:

And that was cheap.

Josh:

So I do have an ethical dilemma with your climate change.

Josh:

Cause like when I bought it, I.

Josh:

I had heard about the, you know, uh, climate change

Josh:

concerns and stuff like that.

Josh:

Like, um, it is an issue.

Josh:

And I think, you know, I think maybe not Bitcoin, but doge coin and

Josh:

others are going to be here to stay.

Josh:

So it's like, how do you make those, you know, uh, yeah, ethical and good

Josh:

for the environment going forward.

Josh:

So I think that's something we should definitely consider going forward,

Sean:

for sure.

Sean:

So, um, to finish out the environmental concerns, uh, there are, like we were

Sean:

talking about, there are conceptual questions such as whether the carbon

Sean:

footprint estimate for an NFT purchase should incorporate some portion of

Sean:

the ongoing energy demand of the underlying network or just the marginal

Sean:

impact of that particular purchase.

Sean:

An analogy that's been described for this is the footprint associated with an

Sean:

additional passenger on any given airline.

Sean:

Some of, uh, some more recent NFT technologies use alternative

Sean:

validation protocols, such as proof of stake that have much less energy

Sean:

usage for a given validation cycle.

Sean:

Other approaches to reducing electricity include the use of off-chain transactions.

Sean:

As part of the minting of an NFT.

Sean:

A number of NMT art sites are also looking to address these concerns and some are

Sean:

moving to using technologies and protocols with lower associated footprints.

Sean:

Others now allow the option of buying carbon offsets when making

Sean:

NFT purchases, although the environmental benefits of these have

Sean:

been questioned in some instances.

Sean:

And if artists have decided against selling some of their own work to

Sean:

limit carbon emission contributions.

Josh:

All right, well hopefully it's going more environmentally

Josh:

friendly by the sounds of it.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Are we going to get into the scams?

Sean:

We are definitely the last, the last two sections are artists and

Sean:

buyer fees and plagiarism and fraud.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

So let's hop straight into those.

Josh:

These might not even be the scams I'm talking about, but they might not

Josh:

be, well, we'll go, we'll get into yours.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

I'll read these out and then feel free to happen with whatever schemes you heard.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

So sales platforms, charge artists and buyers fees for minting fees for

Sean:

listing fees, for claiming and fees for secondary sales and analysis

Sean:

of NMT markets in March, 2021.

Sean:

And the aftermath of people's every days, the first 5,000 days

Sean:

selling for us $69.3 million, huh?

Sean:

Found that most NMT artworks are selling for less than $200.

Sean:

With a third selling for less than $100.

Sean:

Those selling below $100, we're paying network usage fees between 72 and a half

Sean:

to 157 and a half per cent of that amount, meaning that such artists that such

Sean:

artists or on average paying more money in fees than they were making in sales Jesus.

Sean:

So the last section is plagiarism and fraud.

Sean:

Um, there have been examples of artists having their work copied

Sean:

without permission and sold as an NFT.

Sean:

After the artists going hon died in 2020, her identity was assumed by a

Sean:

fraudster and a number of her works became available for purchase as NFTs.

Sean:

Similarly, a poster posing as banks.

Sean:

Succeeded in selling an NFT supposedly made by the artists for 330, $6,000

Sean:

with the seller in this case, refunding the money after the case, drew much

Sean:

media attention, a process, isn't it.

Sean:

You can see

John:

that one

Sean:

artist who, nobody knows who he is.

Sean:

They didn't, he do

John:

like a prank or some shit, but like a disappearing

Sean:

art.

Sean:

He did this thing where he sold a piece of art to somebody to sell for him.

Sean:

And then as soon as somebody like closed the bid and like bought it,

Sean:

uh, there was like a button in there.

Sean:

I don't know if he pressed it if he was in the building or not, but there was a

Sean:

button in there that, uh, oh yeah, that's shredded the artwork from the frame.

Sean:

So somebody spend millions of dollars on a bank CR and then he fucking

Sean:

just shredded it immediately over.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

And then, I mean that in itself, I mean, if you, you know, depending

Sean:

on how you feel about that, I mean, Art, you know, that's yeah.

Sean:

I would not mind owning shredded Banksy.

Sean:

That's pretty fucking cool.

Sean:

Especially this.

Sean:

I mean, I would, I pay millions and millions of dollars.

Sean:

I know, but it would be cool to have, but yeah, he died.

Sean:

He was also just viral on Tik TOK because he, he has an exhibit

Sean:

opening in the Brooklyn museum.

Sean:

So he's been going around New York.

Sean:

Um, and then he has people like selling his artwork on the street

Sean:

next to like regular people artwork and like their Banksy originals.

Sean:

And he's just seeing if anybody buys throughout the day for like 15 bucks,

Sean:

20 bucks, like cheap and nobody, nobody thinks it's real Banksy art.

Sean:

Some people will buy it.

Sean:

Some people will haggle the guys.

Sean:

It's, it's funny to watch, but anyways, so there's a process known as sleepiness.

Sean:

Uh, a process known as sleep minting can also allow a F fraudster to mint

Sean:

an NFT in an artist's wallet and transfer it back to their own account.

Sean:

Without the artist becoming aware, this allowed a white hat hacker

Sean:

to mint, a fraudulent NFT that had seemingly originated from the wallet

Sean:

of the artist, people, the BBC reported a case of insider trading.

Sean:

When an employee, an employee of the NFT marketplace open C bought specific NFTs

Sean:

before they were launched with the prior knowledge that they would be promoted

Sean:

on the company's homepage and empty trading is an unregulated market that

Sean:

has no legal recourse for such abuses and their announcement of developing

Sean:

NFT support for the graphics editor, Photoshop, Adobe proposed creating an

Sean:

interplanetary file system database as an alternative means of establishing

Sean:

authenticity for digital work.

Sean:

And then that's it for Wikipedia guys.

Josh:

Okay.

Josh:

So, um, those weren't quite the, those are, you know, those are scams, I guess,

Josh:

but, um, the scams I was talking about was the, uh, pump and dump scams that

Josh:

allow yeah, I've been doing, uh, John probably appreciates the name, but,

Sean:

um, word on the street is John has pumped and dumped five times in a day.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Today, uh, today on this episode,

Sean:

that is a talent teasing you guys.

Sean:

Oh God.

Josh:

Um,

Sean:

boom, boom.

Josh:

Um, so yeah, so, uh, so big YouTube companies like

Josh:

faze clan and, uh, rice gum.

Josh:

They basically, they make these at FTS and by make, I mean, they are.

Josh:

You know, they sign up for the NFT thing, whatever, like, however you do it.

Josh:

And then they tweet out that, Hey, we're going to give away

Josh:

this much money in our new NFTs.

Josh:

We're super hyped about it.

Josh:

Uh, go buy some whatever.

Josh:

So then all their fans go and buy the new NFT, the price skyrockets, like thousands.

Josh:

I got a bunch of percentage points and then they, what they do is they just

Josh:

cash out because they own a lot of it.

Josh:

And then they make all that money and then their fans are left holding

Josh:

the empty bag of a worthless crypto.

Josh:

So

Sean:

that's kind of what I heard about too.

Sean:

Like people will, okay.

Sean:

So I'll make an NFT and then I'll make another account and buy that

Sean:

MFT NFT from myself for like $10,000.

Sean:

And then somebody be like, oh shit.

Sean:

That's where 10,000.

Sean:

Let me buy that while it's trending or whatever I'll pay.

Sean:

And then you, since you sold it and bought it from yourself for a thousand dollars,

Sean:

you put it up to sell for, uh, for $1,400.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

And then somebody was like, oh shit.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

That's it jumped up from zero to a thousand and it only

Sean:

went up $400 steel buy it.

Sean:

And then you just spent $1,400 on some shit that nobody cares about

Sean:

because the only year you're in a bidding war, you entered a bidding

Sean:

war between one guy and himself.

Sean:

Yeah.

Josh:

And that's the issue, right.

Josh:

You

Sean:

don't know because there's zero regulation for the shit.

Sean:

Yeah.

Josh:

It's just like Sean said the wild west and, um, it it's shitty

Josh:

and it should be illegal, but I don't know if it actually is.

Josh:

I don't know if there actually are laws against.

Sean:

Yeah, it's so new.

Sean:

I mean, I don't know the nuances of the legality of a lot of this

Sean:

stuff, but, uh, I am Sean and you know, the vibes at this point.

Sean:

So if you really want to do the research, that's up to you, my guy,

Sean:

but, uh, that's it for Wikipedia.

Sean:

We're going to get into some ads, uh, listen up, buy that stuff if you want.

Sean:

I guess, uh, if you don't want to, you can go ahead and buy our Patrion

Sean:

on the $10 tiers is what you want.

Sean:

There's a, you get everything.

Sean:

I can't tell you at $10.

Sean:

I can't explain how broke I truly am.

Sean:

E-log

Josh:

Scott do well in the doge coin.

Josh:

He

Sean:

loves sold at the wrong time.

Sean:

Really destroyed me.

Sean:

But, uh, yeah, we'll see you guys back after these ads, psych, unless you're

Sean:

on Patrion all we're already back bitch.

Sean:

No ads.

Sean:

This is what you paid for.

Sean:

This is what you get you better fucking believe it, baby.

Sean:

Welcome back to Reddit on Wiki.

Sean:

We're going to get into the Reddit section of this show.

Sean:

So I pulled up some fun stuff.

Sean:

Uh, but I'll get into the un-fun stuff first and kind of just more explanation

Sean:

on what the problem is with NFTs.

Sean:

Oh shit.

Sean:

I didn't even get to talk about this before we went to

Sean:

break a bonus Wikipedia shit.

Sean:

First time ever.

Sean:

Here we go.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

So I wanted to talk about this, uh, but I forgot obviously, so,

Sean:

and I'm talking about it now.

Sean:

Uh, I'm going to go over the top 10 highest paid, uh, yeah, the

Sean:

highest prices paid for an NFT.

Sean:

Oh shit.

Sean:

Okay.

Sean:

Okay.

Sean:

Top 10.

Sean:

Here we go.

Sean:

I've got to count it out here.

Sean:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.

Sean:

I'll edit this out.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

Cool.

Sean:

Uh, I talked to during that.

Sean:

So I don't know if this is tan, but we'll go with it.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

So the 10th, most expensive and empty sold was sold in 20 in July, 2021.

Sean:

It is the crypto punk number 5,217.

Sean:

Uh, and it's sold for $5.59 million.

Sean:

Oh, oh God.

Josh:

I wonder if we could clip our podcasts and make NFTs.

Sean:

Well, just fucking, we'll just, uh, run, train on between the

Sean:

three of us just upping its value.

Sean:

You know what I'm saying?

Sean:

Oh, God, you heard what?

Sean:

I said?

Sean:

I didn't misspeak.

Sean:

That's what I said, no context, Twitter.

Sean:

We're going to run, train on that NMT.

Sean:

All right next up selling for an approximately $6 million is people's

Sean:

oceanfront sold, uh, in March, 2021.

Sean:

All of these looking like 20, 21, the next one is 6 million and,

Sean:

uh, 34,000, uh, that would be X copies, a coin for the ferry, man.

Sean:

All right, coming up next at $6.6 million is people.

Sean:

Ooh, people again, people's crossroad coming in next at 7.6 million crypto

Sean:

punk number 7,804 cyberpunk coming back at it again with a cyberpunk

Sean:

number 3,100 selling for 7.7 million.

Sean:

So they're only

Josh:

the new banks, the digital banks.

Sean:

Kind of all these people, crypto punks people, they it's, they they're

Sean:

on the top 10 list multiple times.

Sean:

That's okay.

Sean:

Coming in, uh, another crypto punk number is 7,523 sold

Sean:

for a hot, hot $11.8 million.

Sean:

God damn.

Sean:

Holy shit.

Sean:

Oh,

John:

is the money real or is it also an NMT

Sean:

money?

Sean:

No, you're paying real money for this.

Sean:

People are paying either money or Ethereum for these and Ethereum is, is worth,

Sean:

let's say let's guess how much do you think one Ethereum is worth right now?

Sean:

$36,000.

Josh:

Oh, we're going in

Sean:

American?

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

We're going at American.

Sean:

Well, yeah, that's the only money that matters the fuck.

Sean:

Yeah, that's true.

Josh:

Uh, let's go

Sean:

39.

Sean:

You know, we have Canadian listeners.

Sean:

Look what?

Sean:

Go ahead.

Sean:

Your Canadian dollars.

Sean:

How much do you.

Sean:

It's worth $10 Canadian

Josh:

dollars.

Josh:

51,000.

Sean:

Okay.

Sean:

So w where theory is not quite Bitcoin level one at theory and Canadian

Sean:

dollars is worth 5,000, uh, $5,092.

Sean:

Oh, Bitcoin.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

You guys are thinking Bitcoin money.

Sean:

This one is a, oh, oh,

Josh:

now you're a Bitcoin.

Josh:

We're a lot closer, but

Sean:

yeah, Bitcoin, you guys are a lot closer, but, um, one Ethereum to USD

Sean:

is worth $3,937 for fake fucking money.

Sean:

Fake money.

Sean:

It's real money is very much real money.

Sean:

Like,

Josh:

oh, actually

Sean:

all of these sold in Ethereum

Sean:

out.

Josh:

Damn it.

Josh:

If you think about it, John, like money is becoming.

Josh:

Fake in, in your words, right?

Josh:

Like you get your paycheck digitally.

Josh:

You get, you pay things through credit, through your debit card.

Josh:

You never really hold real money anymore.

Josh:

It's all just numbers.

Josh:

It's not really, it's technically just on the blockchain or whatever, but it's

Josh:

in a bank, but that's the blockchain.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

I saw

Sean:

some stat today that in the youth that in the United States,

Sean:

uh, $1 bills are, uh, equally in circulation with a hundred dollar bills.

Sean:

Like they've gone down so much that they're used just

Sean:

as frequently as $100 bills.

Josh:

That's crazy.

Josh:

And you guys still pennies there.

Josh:

Penny has anymore.

Josh:

You guys just got rid of them.

Josh:

Yeah, we got rid of them a couple of years ago.

Josh:

Shit.

Josh:

Cause there was nothing.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

They just, if you're paying in cash, everything is rounded

Josh:

up to the nearest 5 cent.

Josh:

Really?

Josh:

Wow.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

I mean, it doesn't come in that, like I don't pay cash usually,

Josh:

so he charged the cents, but.

Josh:

Yeah.

Sean:

Okay.

Sean:

So let's round out the top three.

Sean:

Oh yeah.

Sean:

We weren't coming in with Bebo people's human.

Sean:

His NFT was called human one and it sold for $29 million.

Sean:

And then he done did it again later, uh, with every days, the first 5,000,

Sean:

um, it's sold for $69.3 million.

Sean:

Oh, nice to be out, dude, by PAC who sold, uh, the merge for 91.8 million

Sean:

fucking dollars and say almost a hundred mil for, for over a seat of an art.

Sean:

This is the

Josh:

dumbest artwork I've ever seen.

Josh:

Oh, you Googled it 9.8 and 91.8 million.

Josh:

Yeah,

Sean:

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sean:

You know, I've always, it looks like two testicles.

Sean:

Yeah,

John:

I've always kind of wanted to just do some art like that.

John:

Like maybe one day I just fucking put a bunch of paint on my butt cheek, sit

John:

on it and then be like, here you go.

John:

And if Tim bro, and then just have fucking like all of us, just to be like, oh yeah,

John:

that, that's what that makes me feel

Sean:

something like, oh my gosh, that's what

Josh:

fucking Gary V or whatever his name does.

Josh:

He draws like stupid little stick figures and sells them.

Josh:

And that he makes, yeah, he makes a ton of money just because people follow him

Josh:

and they believe in his finance voodoo

Sean:

bullshit.

Sean:

What?

Sean:

Well I'm jealous.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

I think it's Gary V anyway.

Sean:

Okay.

Sean:

So we, we have to slander at least one person per

Josh:

podcast.

Josh:

It's true.

Josh:

I will, I will share this here.

Josh:

I'll share this with the screen.

Josh:

Sorry.

Josh:

I'm derailing your

Sean:

episodes.

Sean:

You're fine.

Sean:

My guy, my episode, you already know you call it out.

Sean:

There meant to be the long ones people know going in

Josh:

that was shared.

Josh:

I got the shit, that

Sean:

grateful guard

John:

are you fucking kidding me?

John:

Fucking

John:

money off of this shit.

Sean:

Are you fucking kidding me?

Josh:

It's fucking ridiculous.

Sean:

There's a high percentage of NFTs that look like complete shit.

Sean:

Like a lot of them.

Josh:

Yeah, man.

Josh:

Like, cause cause people just do exactly what you said, John.

Sean:

Uh, a lot of them too, they are like made by AI.

Sean:

So the ma the minimal amount of work, Jesus, I want to

John:

try and network, we needed, we needed to do something like that.

John:

Right.

John:

Everyone just draws some, whatever, whatever you're into and just fuck.

Sean:

I used to fucking listen to Gary V like podcasts.

Sean:

And then like after a month I was like, oh my God, it's the same fucking shit.

Sean:

Every time that's fucking insane.

Sean:

Isn't it?

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

It's just

Josh:

like, uh, you know, hate yourself and, and you'll do better

Josh:

in life, but some shit like that,

John:

never, never silly

Sean:

things

Sean:

in

Josh:

life, never sleep.

Josh:

I like to imagine bad things happen to me so that I get motivated.

Josh:

Like I think my mom died or something, and

Sean:

if you're not waking up at 5:00 AM every Saturday to go to

Sean:

a garage sale, you're fucking up.

Sean:

That's what makes the difference between millionaires and Millie and not

Josh:

meanwhile, he leaves out the part where his family was

Josh:

rich and he inherited money.

Sean:

We started from nothing.

Sean:

We owned a whole liquor store.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

That

Josh:

sounds like starting from, so it sounds like you

Josh:

had something and then yeah.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

It's just a bunch of.

Josh:

He uses his grift

Sean:

to grant more money out of respect that he drifted to 160,000.

Sean:

That's true.

Sean:

At a certain point.

Sean:

I can't

John:

hate from the bottom.

John:

I was never there.

Josh:

I never enjoy

Sean:

anything

John:

down.

John:

We got that in mockery.

John:

Pretty

Sean:

good.

Josh:

That should be our new bit.

Josh:

We just make fun of shitty people.

Sean:

Yes.

Sean:

Oh no.

Sean:

They're going to come out to us.

Sean:

Sue us for defamation.

Sean:

There's way too many shitty people.

Josh:

We're going to start with the, uh, it was the guy you hate in the

Sean:

wheelchair.

Sean:

I was Greg Abbott, Greg Abbott.

Sean:

God fucking

John:

damn could be Greg Abbott.

John:

Josh seems like he hates.

John:

Who do you hate Josh?

Josh:

A lot of people,

Sean:

I was going to say quite emotional.

Sean:

The rich,

John:

most of the rich would be Ilan.

John:

That could be Gary.

Josh:

Okay.

Josh:

Cool.

Josh:

Actually, I'll make fun of Canadian.

Josh:

I'll do Jordan Peterson.

Josh:

How about that?

Josh:

I

Sean:

have no idea who that is, but is that the, is that

Sean:

the, no, that's not that guy.

Sean:

I'm Carmita shag.

Sean:

Before I even

Josh:

start, it sounds like Kermit the frog.

Sean:

Oh, I thought you were going to say the fucking Wolf of wall

Sean:

street was definitely American.

Sean:

Uh, all right.

Sean:

So I've been back on getting into Reddit.

Sean:

Somebody put, uh, what is up with the NFT hate and this

Sean:

guy pretty much just went on.

Sean:

Uh, I want to try it.

Sean:

He was like, I feel like I miss some critical data that everybody

Sean:

else on Reddit has already learned.

Sean:

Can someone explain to this smooth brain, how NFT as a technology are going to

Sean:

fuck us up in the long slash short term?

Sean:

Okay.

Sean:

So in the top rated comment and I'll go for internet points here, the Reddit

Sean:

points, cause it's a lot is, oh my God.

Sean:

So it has Jesus.

Sean:

It has, I can't even see the amount of votes, but I see it has 156 awards.

Sean:

So those are like, uh, those are things that people pay for, I think, to give,

Sean:

to comments and posts that they, like, he got 156 different awards for this,

Sean:

but, uh, he said the answer that people hate NFTs is for a number of reasons.

Sean:

Here we go.

Sean:

I'm going to look.

Sean:

He listed them out.

Sean:

I'll read them out to you.

Sean:

The wicked maniacs, the non fungible or unreal reproducible part of NFTs.

Sean:

It's usually just a receipt pointing to art, hosted elsewhere, meaning that

Sean:

it's possible for the art to disappear.

Sean:

And the NFC becomes functionally useless pointing to a 4 0 4 page.

Sean:

Not found anyone

Josh:

think of that.

Josh:

That's

Sean:

true.

Sean:

Some art is generated based off the unique token ID, meaning a given piece

Sean:

of art is tied to the ID within the.

Sean:

But this art is usually laughably ugly, made by a bot who can generate

Sean:

millions of soulless pieces of art.

Sean:

Also, someone could just right click and save the piece of

Sean:

generated art, making the quote non-functional part questionable.

Sean:

Remember the NFT is only a receipt, even if the art it links to is

Sean:

generated off an ID in the receipt.

Sean:

All right, next one.

Sean:

However, and if Ts are marketed as if they're selling you the art itself,

Sean:

which they're not, this is rightfully called out by just about everybody.

Sean:

You can decentralize receipts because those are small and plain text and

Sean:

inexpensive to login the blockchain.

Sean:

But the art needs to be hosted somewhere.

Sean:

If the server where the artist hosted goes down, your art is gone.

Sean:

Um, shit, NFT mentors are often art Deeves minting, others works

Sean:

and trying to spin a profit.

Sean:

The anonymous nature of NFTs makes it hard to crack down

Sean:

on, and the moderation is poor.

Sean:

And the NFT communities, artists whose artists who get into NFTs with a sincere

Sean:

hope of making money are often hit with a harsh reality that they're losing more

Sean:

money to minting the NMT of their art than it is actually making a profit.

Sean:

Each individual minted art piece costs about 70 to a hundred dollars USD.

Sean:

Okay, cool.

Sean:

That's where we go of Canadian dollars.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

Thousands.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

And we talked about this kind of briefly this next point, but most huge sales

Sean:

are actually the seller selling it to themselves under a different wallet, to

Sean:

try to grift others into thinking the token is worth more than it actually is.

Sean:

Wallet IDs are not tied to names.

Sean:

Therefore are anonymous enough to encourage drumming up fake hype example.

Sean:

If you meant a piece of art that is worth technically speaking, $0 until

Sean:

somebody pays a price for it, the price is what the market dictates

Sean:

is the value for your art piece.

Sean:

Say you're down $70 already from minting, and nobody is buying your art.

Sean:

Bam.

Sean:

You get the idea to start a second.

Sean:

Crypto wallet, pretend it's someone else.

Sean:

And you sell your art piece.

Sean:

That which again is worth $0 to yourself.

Sean:

For $12,000, let's say that's your whole savings account.

Sean:

Converted into crypto.

Sean:

The transaction costs a few more bunk bucks, but then there's a public

Sean:

record of your art being traded for 12.

Sean:

K.

Sean:

You go on Twitter and claim to all your followers.

Sean:

Oh my God.

Sean:

I'm shaking.

Sean:

My art just sold for 12 K and then a picture of the transaction.

Sean:

The second amount is it, your second account then puts the NFT

Sean:

on the market for a second time.

Sean:

This time for 14,000 someone who isn't you makes an offer because they saw

Sean:

your Twitter thread and decided your art piece must be worth at least 12 K.

Sean:

Maybe it's even worth more.

Sean:

Now that poor stranger is down 14.

Sean:

K and you turn 12 K and a piece of artwork.

Sean:

$0 into 26.

Sean:

K John, why are you taking

Josh:

notes?

Sean:

I'm like, what?

John:

Fuck.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Bullshit.

Josh:

There's so many

Sean:

things, so many bad reasons, a few more creating artificial scarcity as a

Sean:

design goal, which is very counter to the idea of free and open web of information.

Sean:

And it makes the privatization of the web much easier using that artificial scarcity

Sean:

to drive a speculation market hurts.

Sean:

Most people accept hedge funds.

Sean:

We afters, and the extremely lucky NFTs are driven by hype making NFT investors,

Sean:

scammers, super outspoken and obnoxious.

Sean:

This is why the tone of the conversation around NFTs is so resentful to them

Sean:

because people are sick of being forced to interact with these NFT high BS

Sean:

and then, uh, questionable legality haven't, uh, NFTs are a Haven for money

Sean:

laundering schemes because crypto is largely unregulated and anonymous.

Sean:

Um, gamers, here we go.

Sean:

John gamers are angry because game publishers love the idea of using NFTs

Sean:

as a way to squeeze more money out of micro-transactions buying a digital

Sean:

hat for your character is only worth anything because of artificial scarcity

Sean:

and bragging rights, NFTs bolster.

Sean:

Both of those

Josh:

that's true.

Josh:

I guess microtransactions and video games were kind of the first iteration.

Josh:

Yep.

Josh:

Horrible.

John:

I mean, this is what was

Sean:

like for real,

John:

super bad at that.

John:

I know when I forgot what game it was.

John:

Well, whichever let's bring it back to the Witcher when they had one of the, one of

John:

the DLC packs that they had, and it was a ridiculous fucking, um, horse armor skin.

Sean:

Oh no, that was Skyrim went ham on them fallout.

John:

I had the same issue

Sean:

evolve.

John:

Yeah.

John:

Evolve, but that's like, but that's the GTA is fucking

John:

horrible at that with all their

Sean:

micro-transactions.

Sean:

Yeah, it reminds me, I remember seeing a back, like way back, like when DLC

Sean:

was becoming a thing and somebody was like, it is crazy how video games are

Sean:

essentially getting away with releasing and making people pay full price for

Sean:

unfinished games only to sell the DLC separately that finished the game.

Sean:

I'm like, this is, should be illegal.

Sean:

I want

John:

to say it was like EA too.

John:

But like when they started releasing like loot boxes and

John:

those were just like terrible.

John:

And then I know two K for, for some time, like God in some issues

John:

because, um, they were kind of encouraging gambling for, for some

Sean:

of the games I'm like, oh yeah, card packs and blue boxes

Josh:

and land.

Josh:

You have to pay real money sometimes to get them.

Josh:

Then it just.

Josh:

Yeah,

John:

like VC, like virtual currency there.

John:

It's like, you got to pay real money to have fake money in the

John:

game, which is goddamn ridiculous.

Sean:

So

Josh:

someone, someone did the math for, I think it was star wars, Battlefront.

Josh:

Someone did the math and it was like, you had to place 600

Josh:

hours to unlock everything.

Josh:

And it's like, okay, well, average people who work every day are not

Josh:

going to be able to pay, play that, you know, like that's possible for

Josh:

some people, but most people are going to have to pay to get the things.

Josh:

And it was paid a win.

Josh:

Like you, you, the, the higher you get like upgrades that you

Josh:

had to pay for, and then you were just better at the game then.

Josh:

So had such bullshit.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Capitalism

Sean:

Bain capital as a baby.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

Moving on to the next one.

Sean:

This is from, uh, the subreddit sad cringe.

Sean:

Uh, NFT dude thinks he can stop people from right-clicking.

Sean:

So somebody tweeted out Twitter is working on a collect collectibles profile

Sean:

tab, NFTE view, and NFT details view.

Sean:

So they showed like what that would look like in Twitter.

Sean:

And they posted like a picture of an NFT and some user said, this is an unlicensed

Sean:

use of blanked out ape, expect a DMC.

Sean:

And then somebody replied to that with a, a picture of, it looks like the

Sean:

guy's profile picture, which is like a, looks like one of those crypto,

Sean:

like, uh, like an NFT of an ape.

Sean:

Okay.

Sean:

Oh, yes.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

So he, he just re posted the guy's profile picture and said, I love my new NFT.

Sean:

And then the guy replied, your tweet will be gone with.

Sean:

And then somebody replied to that four pictures of the same NFT, like four

Sean:

different pictures of the same NMT.

Sean:

And they said, somebody, please do something.

Sean:

This is a legal,

Josh:

I love the troll.

Josh:

Good man.

Josh:

It's just, it's such a pretentious thing to be like, I own this thing.

Josh:

And like, because I paid for it and no one else can own it and get mad at

Josh:

people who want to appreciate the art or the video or whatever it happens to be.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

I w I wonder if they think it's like, like how photographers feel,

Sean:

but photographers made that shit.

Sean:

You know what I'm saying?

Sean:

They difference they made the art behind it.

Sean:

You just bought something that you think is worth shit, however much you paid for.

Sean:

You know what I mean?

Sean:

So

Josh:

it's like you said, they're not buying.

Josh:

To have it, they're buying it to sell it.

Josh:

They're there they're predators as well as they are prey, because sometimes they get

Josh:

conned into paying for something that's not worth anything, but the reason they're

Josh:

buying it is because they want to find the next sucker who will buy it for them for

Josh:

more money and make a profit off of it.

Josh:

They're not actually going into it because they're like,

Josh:

oh, I love fucking basketball.

Josh:

I want to own all these cards or whatever they are.

Josh:

They're like, I want to get a cool card so that I can rip off some other person

Josh:

who thinks that this is worth something.

Josh:

So fuck NFTs.

Sean:

This next one is from a Reddit R slash superstar.

Sean:

Uh, not tin foiling, but I found this amusing, the clickable dead pixel on

Sean:

nft.gamestop.com has a height and width.

Sean:

Can you guess what they have.

Sean:

And then, uh, the height is, uh, six, uh, or the, the width

Sean:

is 6.9 and the height is 4.20.

Sean:

And then literally every comment on this thread is nice.

Sean:

Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice.

Sean:

I got two more.

Sean:

Here we go.

Sean:

Just kidding.

Sean:

Three more.

Sean:

So this one is a board ape NFT accidentally sells for

Sean:

$3,000 instead of $300,000.

Sean:

And then I shared it.

Sean:

Uh, mostly for the comments somebody wrote are we to believe that this

Sean:

monkey is still somehow worth $3,000.

Sean:

And then somebody said it's not even the monkey law.

Sean:

It's just the receipt for the fucking monkey.

Sean:

That's true.

Josh:

God damn.

Sean:

Oh, here we go.

Sean:

And then here's another one, uh, on a Reddit slash R slash shit posting.

Sean:

Nice.

Sean:

Uh, and somebody just, uh, put my collection of screenshotted NFTs

Sean:

and then as hundreds of photos

Josh:

of just other people's

Sean:

NFTs.

Josh:

Oh God.

Josh:

That's so funny.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

And then here's the last one from Reddit, R slash tumbler.

Sean:

Remember that?

Sean:

Remember those days?

Sean:

Uh, no, y'all didn't have tumblers.

Sean:

I didn't even really use Tumblr.

Sean:

I was fucking, that was my.

Sean:

That was a,

John:

well, actually I know I'm not going to out myself.

Josh:

He wrote fanfic I fucking

Sean:

knew it, but

Josh:

the good shit.

Josh:

You know what I mean?

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

John's mad because they banned porn and that's where John's

Sean:

whole tumbler was born.

John:

I didn't have an account.

John:

I just, you

Sean:

know, and just John owned.

Sean:

Fuck.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

nudes.tumbler.com.

Sean:

Well,

Josh:

you're

John:

highly specific.

John:

They're my guys from experience

Sean:

too, dude.

Sean:

Tumbler was just nothing, but fuck yet, insert whatever you want.

Sean:

Dot tumbler.com.

Sean:

I had a homie who posted selfies and was like the cover page of fuck.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

Asian boys.tumbler.com

John:

facts.

John:

One time I was fucking at Filipino cuties.

John:

Yeah,

Sean:

exactly.

Sean:

Like, yeah.

Sean:

Filipino cuties that tumbler.com.

Sean:

Maybe I was in that bitch.

Sean:

You try to say, ah, don't really mess with

Sean:

stab the cap.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

So this is a, from the Reddit tumbler, subreddit, somebody wrote, sometimes

Sean:

I go to myself, you know, I don't really understand what NMT is are.

Sean:

Then I go look into it and discover.

Sean:

Yes, actually I do know it NFTs are, it's just that every time I

Sean:

read about them again, I'm left.

Sean:

This can't be it.

Sean:

There has to be something else to make this make sense.

Sean:

But yet the answer is always, no,

Josh:

I'm so glad you ended it on that one, because that is how I feel.

Josh:

But this entire episode,

Sean:

somebody, somebody wrote in the comments I know is, uh, somebody

Sean:

wrote, wait, what is it empty?

Sean:

And then the top reply wrote, you know, those star registries, where you pay

Sean:

someone money to get a certificate that says you named a star and like, no one

Sean:

other than this one website recognizes it.

Sean:

Imagine that, but with URLs that go to JPEGs, instead of stars,

Sean:

It's

Josh:

true.

Josh:

It's so true.

Josh:

I don't know.

Josh:

The start might even be more.

Sean:

It might be worth more, to be honest with you.

Sean:

No doubt bit

Josh:

you point to it.

Josh:

Although someone takes a picture of it, then you're fucked, then you're fucking

Sean:

fucked.

Sean:

That's example, Sue your ass.

Josh:

I'll see you in court.

Josh:

Bucko, pull up your briefcase and

Sean:

hello.

John:

That's my star.

John:

That

Sean:

JPEG.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

So instead of erotic fan fiction, because I'm still haunted by the last

Sean:

one re-read, uh, I went on, uh, I went on copy, pasta.com and then, um, just

Sean:

picked out some of the top three ones.

Sean:

I went by top up votes for the month and I picked some of my favorite ones

Sean:

and, uh, I have three different copy pastas for three different hosts.

Sean:

So what we're going to do.

Sean:

As we're going to roll on Google.

Sean:

The lowest number.

Sean:

We'll read what I think is the worst one.

Sean:

And then, uh, we'll go from there.

Sean:

Okay.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

So everybody have their D 20 roller on Google.

Sean:

I rolled a 16.

Sean:

Uh, I rolled a seven

Josh:

roll, please.

Josh:

I also rolled a seven re

Sean:

roll baby roll roll off

Josh:

5, 4 14,

Sean:

Josh.

Sean:

This is the worst and wicked maniacs.

Sean:

Uh, again, this is the worst one, please, uh, stick through.

Sean:

Uh, you can, you can, uh, yeah, this will take probably

Sean:

about a two to three minutes.

Josh:

Will my browser allow me to open it?

Sean:

It is on Reddit, so it's shit.

Sean:

It's shit.

Sean:

All right, Josh.

Sean:

That is your copy.

Sean:

Pasta to read.

Sean:

We should save the

John:

worst for last,

Sean:

uh, I guess.

Sean:

Okay.

Sean:

Uh, John, that's all you buddy.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

Okay.

John:

All right.

John:

So this is from posted by username normal.

John:

I underscore gamer posted 13 days ago, not good at math.

John:

So that's December 7th, 2021.

Sean:

Wow.

John:

It's a found in R slash teenagers.

John:

They said, so I don't care about sex and whatever.

John:

So, um, I'm in GameStop with my friend, which is a female, and she

John:

decides, while I'm trying to look for a new game to just grab my

Sean:

PP,

John:

I'm sitting there unaffected with no boner, still looking for a game.

John:

She's shocked at how I don't care.

John:

And all I say is.

John:

Hands off

Sean:

my cock.

John:

She's like how Falco kind of says it in super

Sean:

smash bros.

Sean:

My cat,

John:

she won't respond to my text update.

John:

She texted me back just saying, quote, all right, this is kind of problematic.

John:

Please.

John:

Don't cancel me.

Sean:

Wicked maniacs.

Sean:

We're reading.

Sean:

We did not write this.

Sean:

We are reading what is on Reddit.

Sean:

It could be a general

Josh:

genuine concern or not concerned, but like, maybe she's just wondering

Josh:

why he wasn't interested in there.

Sean:

Again, there

John:

there's an update when they, she texted me back just saying,

John:

quote, are you gay or something?

John:

And I responded with quote, show me your moves.

John:

Now

Sean:

I'm blocked.

John:

And I love, I love the comments.

John:

The top comment was like, no, I am not.

John:

I am a gamer

Sean:

and then they linked our backslash gamers.

Sean:

You love to see a community?

Sean:

Yes.

Sean:

All right, I'll read this next one.

Sean:

Uh, this is from the user, the underscore Wombles posted 12 days ago.

Sean:

The title is my 24.

Sean:

Uh, my 24 female boyfriend, 27 male will not stop calling his come

Sean:

Greg nog during Christmas time.

Sean:

No,

Josh:

it wouldn't be a Gregg.

Sean:

I want to continue, but John is dying.

Sean:

Oh my God.

Sean:

Oh God.

Sean:

Okay, here we go.

Sean:

First off.

Sean:

I am not joking.

Sean:

I wish I was joking.

Sean:

I've been with my wonderful boyfriend, Greg for over four years now.

Sean:

And this Christmas will be our third spent together.

Sean:

He's so much fun to be around.

Sean:

He's handsome, he's charming.

Sean:

And our sex life is great except for one small problem.

Sean:

Every year now, starting in December, he starts referring to his cum as Greg nog.

Sean:

When I first heard him say this, it was in context of a joke.

Sean:

So I laughed and then I forgot it.

Sean:

A few days after this, we were exchanging some spicy texts

Sean:

before he gets home from work.

Sean:

And he says to me, in all seriousness quote,

Sean:

in all seriousness, I can't wait to pour Greg Naga all over your face.

Sean:

I could not believe he just said that to me, but I didn't know what else to

Sean:

do at the time, but go along with it.

Sean:

Fast forward to this December, the phrase has reentered his vocabulary

Sean:

at the S at the same time every year, it makes me cringe beyond belief.

Sean:

But until this year he used it.

Sean:

Sparingly enough for me to just be able to laugh and say, shut the fuck up.

Sean:

I'm not sure that 2020 has done.

Sean:

I'm sure that 2020 has done at least some you repair irreparable,

Sean:

psychic damage to all people.

Sean:

But unfortunately for my boyfriend, this has manifested in the form of

Sean:

him referring to his comp as Greg nog.

Sean:

Non-stop this month, he has been using the term almost exclusively in all contexts

Sean:

and it is driving me bat shit insane.

Sean:

I sat him down for the talk last week, where I asked him very clearly

Sean:

and directly to stop at the time.

Sean:

He said he would, and it did slow down for a few days, but as is now

Sean:

days before Christmas, and he is back at it again with no end in sight,

Sean:

he means the absolute world to me.

Sean:

And I saw myself spending the rest of my life with him, but I have some

Sean:

serious doubts now, whether or not I can, if every Christmas is going

Sean:

to be like this, so please read it.

Sean:

What do I do to make this stop for good.

Sean:

Oh, man.

Sean:

That

Josh:

is so good.

Sean:

Greg nog is the funniest thing.

Sean:

The comments said, uh, uh, quote, beta woman refuses to understand

Sean:

Greg Greg gillionaire grind set.

Sean:

And then somebody commented below that.

Sean:

And the woman he manages to impregnate and will be inevitably be pregnant.

Sean:

Oh my God, Greg man,

Josh:

coming up with the puns.

Sean:

I like it.

Sean:

I hate it.

Sean:

But, uh, that was the best one on Christmas.

Sean:

Good God goddammit.

Sean:

So that was the best one.

Sean:

And we're going to end the episode with the absolute low

Sean:

light, the absolute worst one.

Sean:

Uh, if you want to paraphrase it a little bit, Josh feel free.

Sean:

That is a lot.

Sean:

Just hit the main points.

Sean:

You know

Josh:

what I think would be fun, Shawn.

Josh:

Do our show notes now.

Josh:

And we'll end the show with me just saying,

Sean:

oh, okay.

Sean:

Cause people, people will, people

Josh:

will get out of here.

Josh:

It will be a contest to see who will last

Sean:

you, you get a free $10 video of me doing no, just kidding.

Josh:

We'll make this into an NFT.

Sean:

Yeah, exactly.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

So the end of the episode, shout outs, uh, happy new year guys, 2022.

Sean:

Uh, same us.

Sean:

Sorry.

Sean:

Uh, but uh, if you liked the show, go ahead and rate us and review

Sean:

us on, uh, wherever you get your podcasts, like good pods, pod

Sean:

chaser, apple podcasts, Spotify now.

Sean:

So go ahead and do that and make sure to follow us on all social media.

Sean:

If you need to find that you can, uh, go to our website, read it on wiki.com

Sean:

that has all our links to everything.

Sean:

And, uh, yeah, just, uh, hop on with Josh.

Sean:

We do have a Patrion.

Sean:

It is the cultivate, a network Patrion.

Sean:

Now, instead of read it on Wiki, so you're getting content from a Reddit on Wiki.

Sean:

You're getting content from let's start a cult.

Sean:

You're getting content from content.

Sean:

You're getting content from the Dumbfoundead pod.

Sean:

And eventually you're going to get content from shots and thoughts, but,

Sean:

uh, yeah, that's it for this episode, no plugs, except for a happy new year.

Sean:

We are going to start, uh, we're supposed to be tracking our resolutions now.

Sean:

Let's see if that's still going on, but a baby, the Wiki way.

Sean:

Not new years for us technically.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

Technically this is December, but, uh, yeah, that's it for this episode.

Sean:

See you guys.

Sean:

Oh,

John:

I think that we can say it now because of the second week of January.

John:

This

Sean:

is, this is, oh yeah.

John:

So shout out to our cultivate cultivate podcast network network, man.

John:

Shout out to let's start a Colt shout out to shots and thoughts.

John:

Shout out to our show, read it on Wiki.

John:

Shout out to pineapple pizza podcast, shout out to yield crime,

John:

shout out to weird distractions.

John:

And we're going to bring on some people in the

Josh:

future.

Josh:

He forgot his own

Sean:

podcast.

Sean:

Shawn don't found dead.

Sean:

The Dumbfoundead guys might be having an episode

Josh:

this week, right?

Josh:

Oh, that's true.

Josh:

We're going to be

John:

recording next week.

John:

So after seven months,

Josh:

no, I mean like when this episode comes out,

John:

oh yeah, it comes out January 10th.

Sean:

So it'll be around

John:

the same time.

John:

It's actually going to be the same day.

John:

So hi

Sean:

guys, this is a different network podcast, but I want to give them a special

Sean:

shout out because they, they gave us a lot of love on their huge announcement too.

Sean:

So I feel like it's fair, but, uh, shout out to the summit state of

Sean:

mind, boys, they just became the.

Sean:

Official Houston rockets, fan cited podcast for, uh,

Sean:

for the website fan cited.

Sean:

They're exclusive with that network.

Sean:

And, uh, they gave us a lot of love.

Sean:

The shout out, shout it out our episode a lot.

Sean:

And particularly said that the Superman one was their current favorite.

Sean:

So wait,

Josh:

they went with another network.

Josh:

Fuck them.

Sean:

Oh shit.

Josh:

No kidding.

Josh:

Good for them there.

Josh:

I'm glad they, they found a, a network that works for them.

Josh:

So, yeah.

Sean:

Awesome.

Sean:

Shout out to them.

Sean:

Uh, they gave us a lot of love on their episodes, so, uh, give them

Sean:

a shout out if you like, uh, the MBA, but uh, yeah, go Phoenix.

Sean:

Suns.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

Phoenix suns are tied to they're cool too.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

But, uh, that's it for this episode.

Sean:

We'll see you guys later.

Sean:

We're going to end with Josh's beautiful rendition.

Josh:

I've

Sean:

read it.

Sean:

Here we go.

Sean:

Bye guys.

Sean:

Oh, wait,

John:

hold on.

John:

I shot Sean.

John:

You need to add like background music to the shit while he's saying

John:

it.

Sean:

So it's one year.

Sean:

Oh, can you, uh, you're going to have to send me that, uh, that thing

Sean:

that you said we have with the music and the sound effects, I'm sure

Sean:

it's the same login for everything.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

I'll find it.

Sean:

I'll put something in here.

Sean:

All right, we'll play you out.

Sean:

Josh.

Sean:

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Sean:

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Sean:

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Sean:

well done.

Sean:

My friend.

Sean:

Well done Josh.

Sean:

That's it for this week's

Josh:

episode.

Josh:

Love you guys.

Josh:

If you make that tweet at us

Sean:

tweet at us tweet at us the last line of this segment and we'll,

Sean:

uh, We'll give you a shout out.

Sean:

That's all we can give you.