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What the fuck is up with the maniacs coming back at you with
Sean:another Sean episode, high energy.
Sean:No anxiety.
Sean:Here we go.
Sean:I have been told we do have less than an hour to get this
Sean:done, and that will be the first
Sean:time I think I've ever got It done.
Sean:My mic is
Sean:hot.
Sean:It is clipping.
Josh:is
Sean:Maybe I should
Sean:talk further back.
Sean:Alright.
Josh:used to the, to the live
Josh:show
Sean:Yeah,
Josh:where you're just screaming at each.
Sean:screaming drunk at each.
Sean:other.
Sean:Okay.
Sean:Well, I've been told I have under an hour.
Sean:I think this may be the first.
Sean:Uh, I've ever gone under an hour, so let's see how this fucking girl,
Sean:so we're going to jump straight, fucking into it right off the bat.
Sean:Not even introduced the guest hosts.
Sean:They, they, they fucking, they know who you just kidding.
Sean:Uh, the anxiety is back.
Sean:We're back at it again.
Sean:Uh, anxiety, the
Sean:pressure to get down and under an hour, it's all weighing on
Sean:me like a ton of bricks.
Sean:It's
Sean:your boy, Sean.
Sean:I haven't even said that
Sean:yet.
Sean:Who is?
Josh:Yeah, I know
Josh:why no one knows who you are and no one knows what this
Josh:is
Josh:this, is
Sean:babe?
Sean:I think already stop
Sean:listening.
Sean:This has been the most chaotic I've
Sean:been, this is a lot of
Sean:pressure.
Sean:It's your
Josh:Our numbers are dropping right now.
Josh:I don't know how that's
Josh:possible, where this
Josh:is
Sean:We've never had live chartable numbers and they are plummeting.
Sean:This is crazy.
Sean:Uh, we've been unlisted from wherever you get your podcast.
Sean:This is wild.
Sean:It's your boy, Sean for the third time.
Sean:Uh, welcome second.
Sean:Uh, It's your boy.
Sean:Uh, we are here to discuss it.
Sean:An
Sean:episode
Sean:that I made up in
Sean:45 minutes.
Sean:Uh, maybe
Josh:Well, I did my episode
Sean:Yes.
Sean:Yes.
Sean:Uh,
Sean:but yeah.
Sean:Oh, calm.
Sean:We're calm.
Sean:We're getting it.
Sean:We're going to get it done, guys.
Sean:Welcome to this journey.
Sean:Welcome to read it on Wiki, where we do everything.
Sean:Uh, fuck me.
Sean:I already ruined that.
Sean:Welcome to read it on Wiki, where every week we learn something,
Sean:uh, new using Reddit and Wikipedia
Sean:as our main sources of research.
Sean:Fifth time.
Sean:It's your boy, Sean.
Sean:I got my guests with my
Sean:guests.
Sean:They're cohos.
Sean:They're not
Sean:fucking guests.
Sean:They're
Sean:here every God
Josh:can go make a
Josh:guest, call me
Josh:whenever
John:is a mess.
Sean:uh, I
Sean:did take Molly immediately before recording
Sean:Jessica.
Josh:Yup.
John:You need to go to promo school, Shaun.
Josh:It it's mandatory.
Josh:Now
Josh:that we have
Josh:the new intro, we all have to take Molly before
Josh:each recording.
Sean:insane.
Sean:And I think it may kill us, but you know, the, wicked
Sean:maniacs, when you, when we have so many wicked
Sean:maniacs on a
Sean:$25 tier, what else are we going to do with that money?
Sean:But
Sean:by MDM,
Sean:a
Josh:that's true.
Josh:And the, the issue with it, I think is that we bulk accord and
Josh:we take, we take em every time we do, we hit the record button.
Josh:So
Sean:truly wild intro and outro
Sean:it's,
John:Yes.
Sean:it's
Sean:bad that we're
Sean:doing this.
Josh:It's a weeknight Jesus
Sean:just kidding.
Sean:We're
Sean:Khamenei X.
Sean:We're not doing
Sean:MTMA, we're staying
Josh:or are
Josh:we
Sean:This pay the $25 Patrion fee.
Sean:And you'll, you'll find out it's your boy, Sean with me or my co-host Josh and John.
Sean:And, uh, we're gonna, before we hop into it, actually, we talked about
Sean:this a couple of weeks on our, uh, Reddit on wikis, slack channel.
Sean:Um, If you haven't been to our Patrion again, that's patrion.com/cultivate
Sean:with the letter eight podcast network.
Sean:Uh, you can see whenever you're joining, uh, there are different tiers
Josh:oh,
Sean:Patrion.
Sean:So we're gonna, we, Uh, we have a job or tear.
Sean:We have a cruiserweight and, uh, what the fuck we have a tag team I
John:team
Sean:have a Intercontinental and then we have a world champ.
Sean:And, uh, John was asking me who the, uh, new
Sean:Japan guy was on there.
Sean:And then I was like,
Sean:cause John was like, that's the only wrestler.
Sean:I
Sean:don't know.
Josh:And I said, I don't know.
Josh:any of
Sean:then Josh was like, Yeah.
Sean:I don't know any of these
Sean:guys.
Sean:And then we were like, this would be really funny to, uh,
Sean:hear Josh give
Sean:names or guests, the names of these
Sean:wrestlers.
Josh:I was doing that shit.
Josh:Uh,
Sean:Here we go.
Sean:We're on
Sean:patrion.com/cultivate podcast network.
Sean:And, uh, we have our $1 jobber tier.
Sean:Go ahead and guess a name?
Sean:Uh, John let's make this fully interactive, both sides, John.
Sean:Uh, I need you to describe what this wrestler
Sean:looks like, and then I need Josh to give This wrestler
Sean:a name.
John:All right.
John:This guy is, he is super skinny.
John:He's super, like really thin.
John:Um, he wears a mask that has flames on it.
John:Um, and.
John:If you could try to guess his name, if you ever listen to T pain back
John:in a day, it's part of a song.
John:And, uh, it's a, he has there's three.
John:He has three parts to his name pretty much.
John:And the last part is, uh, a son in.
Sean:Well, let's not, let's not get to where we're
Sean:given.
Sean:Let's let's speed round it, because again, I have been told I'm less than an hour.
Sean:John, has given you a very,
Sean:maybe too many
Sean:hints
Josh:Yeah.
Josh:The son gave me a, you know, I wasn't gonna go.
Josh:I'm going to call them Icarus.
Sean:and Chris close, you didn't hear the last thing John said
Sean:where he said he had three parts
Sean:of a name.
Sean:Uh,
Josh:Damn.
Josh:Okay.
Josh:Uh,
Sean:but I will.
Sean:No, it's fine.
Sean:Icarus is penciled in final answer.
Sean:We're going to go right into it.
Sean:Uh, so John describes Josh guesses.
Sean:I give the answers.
Sean:I finally give facts for once.
Sean:Uh, the name of this wrestler is Del
Sean:Sol
Josh:oh,
John:Yup.
John:T-Pain baby.
Josh:so it was like, let, I mean on
Josh:fire.
John:Yes.
Sean:he's he's the, the sun's
Sean:fire,
Josh:Oh,
Sean:the fire,
Sean:of the sun is his name.
Sean:All
Sean:right.
John:but he gets beat up every
Sean:Yeah.
Sean:That's that's what a job or
Sean:means.
Sean:See you take the job.
Josh:Oh, I get it.
Josh:Okay.
Josh:That's cool.
Sean:All
John:You're going to have to describe this next
John:person, cause I don't
Sean:No, you do the TAC team champion
Sean:one, you know, Intercontinental is not until the, the $15
Sean:to my
Josh:It's going to say there's a whole bunch
Josh:of
Josh:more
John:Oh, I don't have it up on me, like, so I can't really
John:see the tears in the picture.
John:So let
Josh:describe to them,
Josh:John.
Sean:Get to it, John.
John:there's two, uh, okay.
John:The
John:two, uh, two words for their name.
John:One
John:or two words
John:for her
Sean:Just describe how they look.
John:So one of them, one of them is
John:very famous in
John:Texas.
John:Like they like to ride horses.
Sean:Um,
John:And, uh, it's
John:an
Josh:think I was still not describing what he
Josh:looks.
Sean:Yeah, this is, this is, this is for the
John:I playing charades.
Sean:no,
Sean:this is, you're not trying to help Josh.
Sean:You're just describing for the WCA maniac
Sean:so they can,
John:Oh,
Sean:my
Sean:bad.
Sean:I
Sean:didn't
Sean:describe that.
Sean:Well enough,
Sean:John,
Josh:No, I understood.
Josh:I understood.
John:Oh my bad.
John:I'm sorry.
John:Okay.
John:So what they look like is they're very flamboyant
John:with their outfits.
John:You know, they were like some of the latest kicks nowadays, and one
John:of them likes to wear cowboy stuff.
John:The guy that.
Sean:All right.
Sean:So give it a name.
Sean:You can give a name.
Sean:So I will give a hint to John's description.
Sean:The two guys on the outside are a team.
Sean:The one guy in the middle is usually not in a team, but this
Sean:is when they won the trios belt.
Sean:So like,
Sean:uh, a team of three won the belt.
Sean:So you can give their names as a tag team and
Sean:as a
Sean:single or as a join
Sean:an all three name,
Sean:what would
Sean:the,
Sean:whatever their trio name was
Josh:oh, whatever their trio name
Josh:was
Sean:either,
Sean:one.
Josh:Uh, cause I was going to go call the one guy cowboy bill.
Sean:Pretty good.
Sean:Pretty good.
Sean:I like it.
Sean:Cowboy bill.
Josh:Um, I had no other description.
Josh:I don't know what the other guys really their bid is.
Josh:You said they were
Josh:a fashionable,
Josh:um, uh, Gucci, uh,
Sean:That is trademarked.
Josh:Gucci, Jeff and a.
Josh:Um, the,
Josh:uh, I don't know.
Josh:I don't, I don't even know who's who, so let's go
Sean:boys,
Josh:the Gucci boys.
Josh:Yeah, that
Josh:sounds
Sean:bill and the Gucci boys.
Josh:I think your two boys,
John:Sean, you're going to need to make a
John:graphic
Sean:this is, this is the, you know, have you all seen on Tik TOK or the boyfriends
Sean:get their girlfriends to get the NFL team.
Sean:We need to do this, exact thing, but with the wrestlers and
Sean:Josh.
John:Let's do it.
John:You've got to make a tic-tac outta this, Sean.
Josh:uh,
Sean:is Josh is the retinol
Sean:Wiki Tik TOK.
Sean:Right?
Sean:Do we have
Sean:one?
Josh:we do.
Josh:Yeah.
Josh:And I've been
Sean:That's Josh?
Sean:You got it.
Sean:I believe in you.
Sean:All right.
Sean:So, so, uh, this is actually, no, no, no.
Sean:I got to give the real name.
Sean:That's actually the young bucks are the tack team and
Sean:the singles guy is, uh, CA uh, Adam Page.
Sean:Uh,
Josh:Well dumb
Sean:didn't have a knee.
Sean:Yeah.
Sean:Hangman Adam Page and
Sean:their trios name are the hung
Sean:bucks.
Josh:I wasn't far off with the Cowboy
Sean:yeah, you weren't,
John:Yeah, you got it.
Sean:his famous saying is cowboy shit.
Sean:So if you ever hear a cowboy shit,
Sean:it's people referencing hangman Adam
Josh:heard that.
Josh:Um, but not the Gucci point.
Josh:I didn't get The Gucci
John:The Gucci
Sean:Gucci boys.
Sean:They do wear Gucci shoes.
Sean:I'm sure
Sean:they've worn off white and Dior
Sean:Jordans.
John:yes.
Sean:But moving on
Sean:the cultivate cruiserweight champion, the $10
John:This guy is the greatest Luchador of all time.
John:Okay.
John:Some people might call him mysterious, but you know, he is a Ray of sunshine and
John:he's the most awesome freaking Luchador
Sean:just tried to help this man out so much.
Josh:What is a Luchador?
John:Luchador is a mask
John:wrestler hailing from
John:Mexico.
Josh:Ah, like Mo uh, macho Libra
Sean:Nacho
Sean:Libris
John:kind of Luchador
Sean:yeah, yeah.
John:guess.
Josh:Um, what is
Josh:his mask?
Josh:That's what I'm
Sean:Yeah.
Sean:Describe the
John:unique.
John:Well, his mask, I want to say the sides are
John:Eagles, right?
John:If I'm not
Sean:Yeah, they look like he has a cross on the forehead.
John:Yeah.
John:He has a cross in the
John:forehead and the back
John:it's like a dumb-ass me.
John:I don't know if it's Aztec or Mayan, but it's one of those.
Josh:Oh,
Sean:right.
Sean:Quick name.
Sean:We gotta be like the tick talks.
Sean:It's
Sean:quick.
Josh:uh, E let's go with
Josh:a
Josh:double Eagle boy.
John:you say
Josh:Double Eagle boy.
John:double Eagle mine.
John:Nice.
Sean:if
Sean:you
John:I actually gave you
Sean:if you listen to what John said, he?
Sean:said his
Sean:name.
Sean:He
Sean:borderline
Sean:said his name.
Sean:His name.
Sean:is Ray
Sean:Mysterio.
Josh:Oh, okay.
Josh:That's a pretty good name.
Josh:I actually don't mind.
Sean:Yeah, I was pretty
Josh:Yeah, that so far it's been, it's been
Josh:mid.
Sean:It, yeah, you've been not, not,
Sean:too great on this.
Sean:Now we're getting to the
Sean:wrestler.
Sean:John has no idea
Sean:about,
John:I have no idea.
John:That's all I use
Sean:you could
Josh:or you can describe what he looks like.
Sean:that's
Sean:it
John:well, he has a ponytail.
Sean:I've asked you to do is describe you've you've
Sean:taken liberties with this job.
John:sorry.
John:I thought it was steroids.
John:Okay.
John:My
John:bad.
John:Um, he's wearing some really flashy clothes and he has like
John:this super wild Pegasus looking.
John:That's all I
John:got.
Sean:give you hands.
Sean:Cause John gave you hints.
Sean:His nickname is the ACE.
Sean:I told you guys this in the chat, but he's essentially
Sean:the Japanese John
Sean:Siena
Sean:terms of importance to, the company.
Sean:He
Sean:wrestles to
Sean:wrestles for
Josh:I'm going to
Josh:I'm going to call them the.
Sean:the gambler.
Sean:Nice.
Sean:Uh, I already
Sean:gave you a nickname.
Sean:So you think his name is
Sean:the
Sean:gambler, the ACE,
Sean:uh,
Josh:Oh, I see.
Josh:Ah,
Josh:my bad.
Josh:I
Sean:his name
Josh:were saying he was an
Josh:ACE,
Josh:my
John:is ACE, gambler.
Sean:gambler.
Sean:That's a cool name
Sean:That's a
Josh:uh,
Sean:name is, uh, Hiroshi.
Sean:Tanahashi.
Sean:I
Sean:don't think
Sean:you would have guessed that
Josh:I would've never
Sean:in a million years.
Josh:being a racist piece of shit.
Sean:All right.
Sean:And then we're going back to somebody,
Sean:John knows.
Sean:Uh, go ahead, John.
Sean:Again,
Sean:describe the
John:guy has the coolest look in the
John:world.
John:He's like his hair reign
John:Supreme.
John:And you know, he's, he's amazing.
John:He's probably like one of the
John:top two wrestlers in the world.
John:Currently.
Josh:Uh,
John:like the Roman empire.
John:He didn't bring a, you know,
John:he,
Sean:top, top, top two is, uh, John's
Sean:opinion.
Sean:I liked, I liked, this guy.
Sean:I don't
Sean:think he
Sean:stopped.
John:Needle mover,
Josh:all black.
Josh:He has all black hair.
Josh:His tattoos are very dark.
Josh:Uh,
Sean:John also said both of his
Sean:names in his little spiel.
Josh:I don't listen to John's
Sean:Fair fair.
John:Assholes.
Josh:man.
Josh:Um, I'm going to call him,
Josh:I don't know
Sean:We got to go quick with it.
Josh:the scorpion
Sean:He,
John:his
John:cousin is a
Sean:his
Sean:cousin
Josh:The scorpion
Sean:scorpion king
Josh:Really?
John:is the Rock's cousin.
Sean:little cousin.
Josh:Oh shit.
Sean:That is, uh, the tribal chief, the best superstar.
Sean:I won't say the best wrestler, but he's he's
Sean:good.
Sean:Roman
Sean:reigns.
Josh:Roman reigns.
Josh:Okay.
Josh:I
Sean:it.
Sean:He's kind of nice.
Sean:He's this?
Sean:Generation's John Siena.
Sean:He'll probably, he'll probably leave for movies in about like five years.
Josh:And build them build an empire, like the rock.
Sean:He was in fast and furious
Sean:with the rocket thing.
Sean:The, the, the spinoff one, the Hobbs and
John:Hobbs and
Sean:I didn't
Josh:oh,
Josh:I did watch that one.
Josh:That was the last one I
Sean:he's in there.
John:Um, people do say he kind of resembles Mamoa a little bit.
Sean:He does look like Dollar store.
Sean:Mamoa
Josh:Dollar store.
Josh:Mamoa
Sean:he's a handsome guy.
Sean:He's a handsome Moses.
Sean:Momo is a God.
Josh:True.
Josh:True.
Sean:All right.
Sean:Well, now that we have that out of the way,
Sean:uh, let's get right into the topic of the day and It's kind of appro,
Sean:pro don't know if I'm using that
Sean:correctly, but the topic is
John:apropos, but
Sean:that's
Josh:No, no.
Sean:no, no, no.
Sean:It's appro pro.
Sean:that's.
Sean:That's the new
Sean:thing now.
Sean:Apple
Josh:It's a duck.
Josh:It's double pro.
Josh:Okay.
Sean:means it's doubly as good.
Sean:All right.
Sean:The topic of the day is the greatest wrestlers that never won
Sean:the world title.
Sean:So I'm going, um, this is again, in
Sean:my opinion, uh, as you
Sean:can
Sean:tell, I already have different opinions
Sean:from,
Josh:No, this is straight
Sean:This is fact okay.
Sean:the Ted the best three wrestlers that
Sean:never won the world
Sean:championship.
Josh:This are the wrestling Bible, baby.
Sean:Uh, yeah, my opinion is the only wrestling opinion
Sean:that matters in the world.
Sean:It's
Sean:crazy.
Sean:I can't
Josh:The book
Josh:of Shawn, read it or get out.
John:This is how you're booking the episode now.
John:Okay.
Sean:Yup.
Sean:Yup.
Sean:Yup.
Sean:Yup, yup.
Sean:All right.
Sean:So we're going to top three.
Sean:I'm going, I have some ground rules I set for myself.
Sean:They can't be an active wrestler cause that means they still have
Sean:a chance at winning a world title.
Sean:And that was the only rule that I set that, oh, the other rule
Sean:is that I'm only counting world
Sean:titles that were on a televised
Sean:wrestling company, so they could have
Sean:won a world title on the Indies,
Sean:but not on,
Sean:you know,
Sean:your
Josh:we don't give a shit
Sean:Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Sean:exactly.
Josh:We're mainstream.
Josh:We're no hipsters.
Sean:well, well, okay,
Josh:Sean back me up when I back
Josh:you up.
Sean:I'm sorry, but I do like the Indies, but uh, they're not,
Sean:uh, you know, anybody Can be, not anybody that sounds rude to the
Sean:independent wrestlers, but
Sean:you know,
Sean:it's, it's much harder to be a world champ on a
Sean:televised
Sean:show than
Josh:I ask a
Josh:question
Sean:can ask anything
Josh:know, I know,
Josh:we have a hard
Josh:cap in an hour, but
Sean:uh,
Sean:less than at much less than an hour now.
Josh:uh, it's all scripted, right?
Josh:So, how is it?
Josh:Quote, unquote, hard to win the title?
Josh:If you don't, if you don't mind.
Josh:My
Josh:ignorance.
Sean:John, John ad, like he's ready to take it a few
John:no, go ahead.
John:Go ahead.
John:It's your episode?
John:My
Sean:So here, here's what it is.
Sean:When you are the world champion of a televised product, you have
Sean:all the media responsibilities of being the world champion.
Sean:You got to do all the press for being the world champion.
Sean:If the ratings on TV go down because your champion kiss That goodbye.
Sean:Uh, so you have to earn the company's trust and respect that you're one can
Sean:sell merchandise and get over with the fans, like become popular to that year.
Sean:Stable.
Sean:And sound enough of mine to do media and represent the company.
Sean:And, uh, three wrestling in general is just fucking hard.
Sean:Everything is scripted, but it's a lot of,
Sean:uh, a lot of things need to go, right.
Sean:In order to
Sean:become the top person of a
Sean:company.
Sean:You
Sean:know what I mean?
Josh:Okay.
Josh:That makes sense.
Josh:How long are they usually
Josh:checking?
John:it really
Sean:it depends on the company,
John:Yeah.
John:So right now, like a.
Sean:oh, go ahead.
John:And I was going to say, like right now,
John:like the big whole thing with,
John:uh, all elite wrestling coming
John:as the second competitor, or, you know, the main competitor to WW right now
John:is a lot of it has to do with ratings.
John:So when a champion, well, that's why when I said needle pusher a while
John:ago, that means like, uh, getting the ratings from like, um, your brand
John:as opposed to the other company.
John:So like, for example, there's this guy named gender.
John:Right.
John:He's a proverbial jobber back in the day, but because WWE wanted to get more, uh,
John:demographic from India, this guy happened to be a Canadian Indian, and he, they,
John:they made him a world champion after being so shitty for the past, like five years,
John:but they wanted to catch that demographic.
John:And I think personally he did really well in the media type.
John:Um, he might not be the best wrestler, but they really want
John:it to catch that demographic.
John:That's why they made him that.
Sean:And a lot of like the reasons people have problems with whoever,
Sean:you know, in general wrestling fans is they, uh, you know, gender, I think
Sean:would have been more appreciated, had.
Sean:Had like a organic, you know, he just went from like job in one week
Sean:to being a world champion, like two weeks later with no like nothing made sense.
Sean:Yeah.
Sean:No build.
Sean:So everybody's like, what
Sean:the
Sean:fuck is this?
Sean:So, you know, it's, it's, uh, it's a lot of things
Sean:that
Sean:go into it and you know.
Sean:it's hard to book a
Sean:wrestling show.
Josh:Okay.
Josh:Okay.
Josh:Now I was just wondering, cause I didn't, I don't know I don't
John:So
John:many factors that could play, like just So many factors.
Sean:I'm going to kind of break down how I'm going to do This I'm going
Sean:to read a short little bio from a website, and then I'm going to read
Sean:their accomplishments off of Wikipedia.
Sean:And, uh, and then I'll just move on.
Sean:We got to go quick.
Sean:All right.
Sean:So starting off topping the list at number three, the third best
Sean:wrestler of all time to never win a world championship in their company.
Sean:First step we have.
Sean:The most, influential junior heavyweight in pro wrestling history.
Sean:I think the.
Sean:most influential because he predates Rey Mysterio.
Sean:We're going with Jewish in thunder, liger, never a world champion in
Sean:his company, mostly in new Japan is where he's known for his work.
Sean:So, uh, I'll read a little bit about, Jewish in and
Sean:I'll list as accomplishments.
Sean:All right.
Sean:So this is from the sportster.com.
Sean:I got to give a full credit to Danny.
Sean:I'm not going to say your last name, but, um, uh, if you are
Sean:named Danny and you published this article in November 23, 2020.
Sean:Just know this is a shout out to you.
Sean:Thank you for writing this.
Sean:All right.
Sean:So one of the greatest and most influential junior heavyweights in
Sean:pro-wrestling history, not just new Japan, pro wrestling and thunder lagger
Sean:retired in January of 2020, capping off a nearly 36 year career as one of the
Sean:few remaining active new Japan stars who debuted in the eighties, Liga racked up
Sean:a
Sean:whopping 17 different title, reigns blowing away every other
Sean:non IWG P heavyweight champion
Sean:out of the water.
Josh:This guy looks like a power
Josh:ranger side note
John:Yes, that's the.
Sean:he, I think I could be completely wrong, but I think he,
Sean:he either came from an anime or he debuted and then somebody made an
Sean:animate
Sean:about
Sean:him immediately because he looks fucking rad.
Sean:Does he not look
Sean:cool as fuck?
Josh:oh, he's the coolest one I've
John:ultra man.
Sean:Yeah.
Sean:So.
John:you've ever seen ultra ultra man before, but that's kind
John:of the vibe that I always get.
Josh:He's got like devil horns.
Sean:I
Sean:would,
Josh:with horn
Josh:with
Sean:oh yeah,
Josh:a little bit like horns on his shoulders is crazy.
Sean:he's fucking rad as fuck.
Sean:I would get more into his career, but again, we can maniacs.
Sean:Um, I'm setting a goal for myself.
Sean:I gotta get this done.
Sean:Um, so if you want to learn more about Jewish and thunder lagger, his Wikipedia
Sean:are sponsor slash not sponsor Wikipedia.
Sean:There's a whole thing about Jewish and thunder lagger.
Sean:Um, but, uh, let me read some of his accomplishments Okay.
Sean:We have all star wrestling.
Sean:I'll just name the championships.
Sean:Okay.
Sean:He was the dragon gate opened the dream gate champion.
Sean:He was the Mitch and Elko pro British Commonwealth junior heavyweight champion.
Sean:The super J cup champion, the NWA world junior heavyweight champion, the IWG pea
Sean:junior heavyweight champions, the IWG P junior heavyweight tag team champion
Sean:winner of the J crown NWA, world, a welterweight champion UWA world junior
Sean:weight champion, a whole bunch of shit, WWF, light heavyweight champion, and a
Sean:pro wrestling illustrated, which is a huge professional wrestling magazine.
Sean:He was ranked number eight of the top 500 single wrestlers and a PWI 500 in 2000.
Sean:He was ranked number 12 in 2003 and he was ranked number 47 out of the top 100
Sean:tag teams ever with El samurai in 2003.
Sean:He was the G H C junior heavyweight champion.
Sean:GHC junior heavyweight tag team champion list goes on.
Sean:He became a he to Tokyo sports newcomer of the year award in 1985.
Sean:He won the outstanding performance award from Tokyo sports in 1994.
Sean:He has a WWE hall of fame, class of 2020.
Sean:He won, from the wrestling observer network, best gimmick, best flying
Sean:wrestler, best technical wrestler, best wrestling, maneuver match of the year.
Sean:Most outstanding wrestler, rookie of the year hall of fame.
Sean:And, uh, according to Dave Meltzer, he has three different five-star
Sean:matches back in the day, it was really hard to get a five-star match.
Sean:And now wrestlers have kind of just figured out what this Dave Meltzer
Sean:guy likes and you get five-star matches like every week on TV.
Sean:It's crazy.
Sean:But back then in the nineties and eighties, You know, no one's tailoring
Sean:their matches for Dave Meltzer back then.
Sean:So he had a, I could do a whole episode on Dave Meltzer.
Sean:That's a future app, but um, he has three different five star wrestling matches
Sean:one against NIO ki Sano in the spring gold series in 1991 with Elsie MRI in the
Sean:explosion tour of 1992 and one against the great SaaS K in summer struggle.
Sean:94.
Sean:All
Sean:right.
Sean:That is the third.
Sean:He's only number three
Sean:on this list.
Sean:thunder lagger,
Josh:I don't know what many of those accomplishments
Josh:were, but kudos to that, man.
Josh:Um, if nothing else for his
Josh:costume.
Sean:the sickest costume.
Josh:Yeah, the sickest costume,
Josh:I would follow him into battle.
Sean:Alright, are we ready for number two?
John:Let's get it.
Sean:All right.
Sean:We have coming in at number two, the second best wrestler to never
Sean:win the world heavyweight title.
Sean:We have the king of hearts, Owen Hart.
Sean:Um, rest in peace.
Sean:This is from a different article on the Bleacher report.com.
Sean:So thank you to Brian Haas on, uh, if you post this on August
Sean:10th, 2012, uh, shout out to you.
Sean:But, uh, Owen Hart, there was really No.
Sean:telling the level of success that Owen might have attained
Sean:before his tragic death.
Sean:At the age of 34,
Sean:as a member of the legendary heart family, Owen was poised for success early.
Sean:With multiple rains with various WWF titles, the European championship,
Sean:the Intercontinental championship, and the tag team championship gold
Sean:was never far from Owen's waist for the better part of the nineties.
Sean:In addition to winning the king of the ring tournament in 94, his feud with
Sean:his brother, Brett in the mid 1990s was one of the greatest of all time bidding
Sean:members of the immediate and extended family against each other and tugging
Sean:at the heartstrings of anyone who ever had an altercation with a family member.
Sean:So Owen Hart had a tragic death.
Sean:I can't really get into it much without it being a whole thing,
Sean:but essentially, the WWF wanted to have him come down on a zip line.
Sean:And when he was coming down in the zip
Sean:line, it broke and he fell and he passed away in the stadium.
John:it was like 90 feet.
John:And the bad thing about it is they kept.
Sean:They had to do the show
Josh:Really?
Josh:What are you kidding
Sean:Yeah.
Sean:It's fucked up that they did that,
John:It was.
Sean:but, uh, I'm going to go ahead and list I'll I'll try and list there,
Sean:uh, reading that and then hearing Josh
Sean:say what he said, that was a lot of,
Sean:uh, fucking acronyms And championships.
Sean:So
Sean:I'll keep it short with the,
Josh:Sorry.
Sean:no, you're good.
Sean:You are, as
Sean:the non wrestler, you are the, uh, the voice of probably most wicked maniacs.
Josh:And the, every man, when I do a
Josh:hockey podcast or hoppy hockey episode, one day,
John:like, well, I don't know what you're saying at the time.
Sean:all right.
Sean:so I'll, I'll go quick.
Sean:He's in the George, they ghosts, Lou Dez professional wrestling hall of fame.
Sean:He is in the legends pro wrestling hall of fame.
Sean:He's in the Prairie wrestling Alliance hall of fame.
Sean:He is an IWG P junior heavyweight champion.
Sean:He's won many awards from pro wrestling illustrated, such as the feud of the year,
Sean:the rookie of the year ranked top 10 in the singles top ranked 66 in top 500 all
Sean:time ranked 84 and tag teams is in the PW the professional wrestling hall of
Sean:fame with the WWF he's won the European championship, like I said, he's won king
Sean:of the ring, the tag team championships, Intercontinental he's won slummy awards
Sean:and he's won some wrestling, observer newsletter awards for best flyer of
Sean:the year or best flying wrestler and
Sean:for feud of the year.
Sean:And he also has a five star match, against his brother, Brett Hart at a
Sean:summer slam 1994.
John:so good.
John:Can I just say how much I appreciate this guy
John:as well?
John:If it wasn't for Owen Hart and I would like to add Brian Pellman in there.
John:Rest in peace as well.
John:Um, stone cold, Steve Austin wouldn't have reached superstar.
John:If it wasn't for this guy, his feud, I mean, it sucks because Owen is
John:pretty much well known for breaking stone cold's neck without Paul driver.
John:But I think if that didn't happen, those chain of events, stone-cold, wouldn't have
John:been like such a huge megastar, like as people know him as a household name today.
Sean:Yeah, he's the stone-cold is the, I guess like the most merchandise,
Sean:he's the person that brought the most
Sean:money to
Sean:the business all time
John:Oh yeah.
Sean:and that's, uh, he gives a lot of credit to Owen for,
John:Do you know who stone cold?
John:Steve Austin is Josh.
Josh:I've heard the
Josh:name.
Josh:I
Josh:couldn't
Sean:have you seen
Josh:point them out in a crowd.
Sean:you seen Austin?
Sean:Three 16 shirts.
Josh:No,
Josh:but I know who I know who stone
Josh:cold.
Josh:Steve Austin is like, I've heard the
Josh:name.
John:and that's like, that's how much he transcends, like, you know, I guess
John:pop culture in a way, like, even if someone who is not a wrestling
John:fan, like you just name value.
John:A lot of people know who stone-cold
John:is.
Sean:yeah.
Sean:Roman reigns is probably today's most
Sean:popular wrestler and Josh had no fucking
Sean:idea who that
Sean:guy was,
Sean:but
Sean:he
Sean:knows he's, he's heard of stone
Sean:cold.
Sean:Also Rey
Sean:Mysterio is huge
Sean:among a pop culture.
Sean:I feel like no idea who that guy was.
Josh:I don't know.
Josh:I don't know.
Josh:Could you guys name a hockey player?
Sean:uh,
John:Wayne
John:Gretzky.
Josh:a current hockey
John:Sidney Crosby,
Josh:Okay.
Josh:All right.
John:that's it?
Sean:um, motherfucking, um, uh,
John:uh, Kane Harry Harry came
Josh:Well, you got Kane,
Josh:right?
John:Kane.
John:What's
Josh:Harry Kane is
Josh:funny.
Sean:hurricane
Josh:Uh, it's pat hurricane.
Josh:uh, Patrick Kane,
Josh:I
John:Patrick at
Sean:Yeah.
Sean:Yeah.
Sean:If Euston had a team, I would at least know them, but
Josh:oh, well we
Josh:won't get into it, but Phoenix
Josh:might be.
Josh:They're kind of, they're getting
Josh:kicked out of
Josh:their arena this year, Phoenix coyotes.
Josh:So everyone's speculating on where they'll
Josh:go,
Sean:is Houston a rumor at all?
Josh:a lot.
Josh:Well, so they're probably just going to go to
Josh:a
Josh:college rink, which is ridiculous, but,
Josh:um, yeah, people are pushing for Houston or Quebec city, I
Sean:I would fucking love
Sean:a Houston
Sean:hockey team.
Josh:Oh
Sean:Anyways.
Sean:That
Sean:way
Josh:rivalry would be great, but
Sean:uh, we got to move on
Sean:again.
Sean:I got less
Sean:than an hour here.
Sean:All right.
Josh:sorry, I keep derailing,
Sean:you know that, you know, the fans of the show love
Sean:a derail.
Sean:They love a good
Sean:de-rail.
Josh:um, the heel of the episode.
John:Oh, I
John:like
Sean:I'm fucking wiping a tear away, bro.
Sean:You're a
Sean:fucking
John:know.
John:It's
John:so
Sean:You're a fucking
Sean:Dick dude.
Sean:All right.
Sean:Now we're going on to the greatest wrestler to
Sean:never win
Sean:a world championship.
Sean:Um,
John:Josh guess a
John:name.
Sean:yeah.
Sean:Josh Joshua wrestling, man.
John:yeah.
John:no, we should make Josh try to guess what
John:the name is of whoever
John:number one.
Sean:Okay.
Sean:So I'll, I'll give like a little, uh, what I was going to say.
Sean:And then Josh and John, both of you can guess on who it is.
Sean:This is the first wrestler to main event, WrestleMania and
Sean:star in a Hollywood blockbuster.
Sean:That became the number one.
Sean:movie.
Sean:Um, he is known as wrestling's greatest
Sean:heal,
John:Oh, I already know the answer to this.
Josh:uh,
Sean:out a name, any.
Josh:I don't know who isn't the rocket, wasn't
Josh:he a heel at one
Sean:You can guess the rock if that's
Josh:famous.
Josh:I'm going to guess the rock.
Josh:I don't know what I think he probably won something,
Josh:but,
Josh:or he was probably the
Josh:champion, but I'm going to guess the rock.
Sean:Before I answer
Sean:John, can you answer how many times
Sean:the rock has won the world championship?
John:Let's go with
John:six.
Sean:that sounds about right.
Sean:He's what he's won quite a few times.
Sean:Yeah.
Josh:that's very, he's the only one.
Josh:He's the only one.
Josh:I was like a, I think
Josh:he was a heel.
Josh:What about D is Dave Bautista.
Sean:He's also won the world championship.
Sean:Yeah, yeah,
Josh:Okay, well,
John:to Filipinos.
John:He's our, he's our version of an Asian
Sean:yeah,
Sean:He
Sean:Filipino dude, whenever he got
Sean:that fucking Filipino flag tatted on his
John:I was
Sean:I've never, I was
Sean:like, is
Sean:this what representation
Sean:feels like?
Sean:I've never in my
John:is bro.
Sean:felt like that.
Sean:I was.
Josh:Yeah.
Josh:Yeah.
Josh:I mean either,
John:Okay, Josh Siena.
Sean:Boom,
John:Boom.
Sean:Boom.
Josh:like I said, the heel baby.
Sean:Alright, John, since You already know, go ahead and give
Sean:it to him.
Sean:Who is the best wrestler, in my
Sean:opinion
Sean:in Shawn's opinion to never win a world title.
John:You said the best deal of all time.
John:It's gotta be hot rod.
John:baby Roddy, Roddy.
Sean:That is
Sean:correct.
Sean:Rowdy.
Josh:in hot rod.
Sean:Uh, predates that a little bit.
Sean:Predates that a little bit, but yeah, it is rowdy Roddy, Piper,
Sean:the main event of WrestleMania one.
Sean:Uh,
Sean:so yeah, let's read some stuff about
Sean:him and,
Sean:uh, read
Sean:some of his
Sean:accolades.
Josh:I was Canadian.
Sean:yeah.
Sean:Same with Owen.
Sean:Same with
John:yeah.
Josh:Oh, you love
Josh:Canadian Sean.
Josh:That's what I'm learning about.
Josh:You
Josh:have podcasts with two of
John:of
John:great
John:wrestlers,
Sean:Yeah, Canada.
Sean:I stopped myself from saying Canadian like
Sean:five different times in that span, but yeah,
Sean:Canada has a lot of great wrestlers.
Josh:We'll take Canadia.
Josh:That's fine.
John:Canadian.
Sean:All right.
Josh:He does look like a Canadian dude.
Josh:I gotta be
Josh:honest.
Sean:Roddy.
Josh:Yeah.
Sean:Yeah.
Sean:There's there's uh, well you
Sean:can making around, uh, Mount Rushmore.
Sean:Uh, that's an American reference.
Sean:Josh.
Sean:I
Sean:don't know if you know about that thing,
Sean:but Mount
Josh:Now we don't have
Josh:that.
Sean:Yeah.
Sean:It's a, it's a questionable to have uh, such a huge statue, uh,
Sean:and glorifying humans like that.
Sean:But, uh, it's a big old
Sean:carved in the rock of, I think
Sean:uh, you know native American
Sean:land also
Sean:problematic.
Sean:Um, they carved four presidents into the, the side of a mountain.
Sean:Uh,
Josh:he, do you know, actually not think I know what that
Josh:Mount Rushmore is?
Sean:no, I just like to,
Sean:you know, I
John:Dustin just gave you prompts for
John:not mansplaining and you just
Sean:There's not
Sean:I'm explaining to Josh who is another
Sean:man.
Sean:Who's not
John:American
Sean:I'm a mayor explaining is what it
Sean:is a
John:a
John:marriage
Josh:planning.
Josh:Yeah.
Josh:That's about it.
Josh:Yeah.
Josh:We have the same thing.
Josh:We just
Josh:carved it in ice though.
Josh:Uh,
John:lake Manitoba.
Sean:it,
Josh:it's just Justin
Josh:Trudeau.
Sean:it would be hard to do a Mount
Sean:Rushmore of strictly
Sean:Canadian wrestlers.
Sean:That's
Sean:how many good Canadian wrestlers there are
Josh:Oh, nice.
Josh:So I should have changed career
Josh:paths.
Sean:could have made it and You could have been
Sean:a
John:You could have made it,
John:bro.
Josh:I don't think I'm big enough, but whatever.
Sean:Steroids, my friend.
Sean:Okay.
Sean:Continue
Sean:considered by many as one of the most entertaining wrestlers in history.
Sean:Piper could never be called boring his promos bordered on ranting at times.
Sean:However, they included generally lucid and poignant, Poignant.
Sean:pregnant.
Sean:I'm not smart guys.
Sean:You know, this.
Josh:that's fair.
Josh:Paid patrons.
Sean:Yup.
Sean:Piper coined phrases, like just when you think they have, they're just
Sean:when they think they have the answers?
Sean:I changed the questions and you do not throw rocks at a man.
Sean:Who's got a machine gun.
Sean:Uh, Piper was the attitude, age of WWF before It even actually
Sean:happened, whether he was working as a heel or not, one of his best known
Sean:stunts was painting his painting.
Sean:Half of his
Sean:body black at WrestleMania six while wrestling bad news
Sean:brown.
Sean:He
Sean:was
Sean:also, yeah, that, that seems
Sean:bad.
Sean:Yeah.
Sean:But
Sean:yeah,
Josh:which half.
Sean:it's better not known.
Sean:Uh, he is also remembered for spraying talk show host, Morton, Downey, Jr.
Sean:With a fire extinguisher at WrestleMania five though, he never won the big one.
Sean:Piper did hold the WWF Intercontinental title once as well as the tag team
Sean:titles with the Ric flair Piper's level of stardom can not be compared to.
Sean:Even today when the first strains of his entrance theme
Sean:are heard, a crowd will erupt.
Sean:So I'm going to read some of these things.
Sean:Some of his accomplishments, I really should just click, you know,
Sean:Wikipedia does this nice thing where they have links at the top and I've
Sean:just been scrolling like an idiot.
Sean:He is the NWA mid Atlantic heavyweight championship.
Sean:So not the world, uh, NWA television championship and w AWC w United
Sean:States championship, Intercontinental champion tag team champion,
Sean:WWE hall of Flint, All flamer.
Sean:Oh, fun fact derail again.
Sean:Um, in, when I used to play Pokemon on the game, boy, uh, red, you
Sean:know, cause that's how old I am.
Sean:Um, when I was
Sean:little, I used to think
Sean:that the, uh, hall of fame,
Sean:cause you can get into the hall of fame in that
Sean:game.
Sean:Uh, I misread it as a child and thought it was hall of
John:All a flame
Sean:I called any accolades.
Sean:Oh my God.
Sean:Are they in the they're good.
Sean:Are they in The hall of flame and then in Houston there's a bunch of like, uh,
Sean:Texas, you know, we're known for oil
Sean:and
Sean:all that kind of stuff.
Sean:There's like some refinery.
Sean:, in a city close by and we drove past It And then I looked at my
Sean:parents and I was like, oh my God, is this the hall of flame?
Sean:Cause there's like
Sean:fires coming out of like all the buildings and shit.
Sean:and I was like, is this
Sean:the hall of flame
Sean:Yeah, I was, uh, I've been a dumb ass.
Sean:My whole life
Sean:WCA maniacs is what I'm trying to say.
Josh:The hall of flame and other name for hell.
John:It do be
Sean:Yeah.
Sean:Be like that.
Sean:All right.
Sean:So he's, he's, also won, uh, from the,
Sean:, PWI inspirational wrestler of the
Sean:most hated wrestler of the year, most popular wrestler of the year.
Sean:The,
Josh:What a turn of
Sean:I know the Stanley
Sean:Winston, award and, uh, a bunch of other stuff best heel from a wrestling observer
Sean:newsletter, best teal, best on interviews.
Sean:Worst worked match.
Sean:Oh that's bad.
Sean:Uh, and then the hall of fame.
Sean:So I'm going to list some reasons why all three of these guys never won the big one.
Sean:So
Sean:they say, uh, again, I'm going to keep it short and sweet so we can get to
Sean:the second half of, the episode, the Reddit slash erotic fan fiction half.
Sean:Yes, it's back fuck
Sean:my
Josh:God.
Sean:Um, but real quick, and this is, you know, just a quick,
Sean:uh, super quick reasons why they didn't win, uh, for liger.
Sean:It was very rare in new Japan for junior heavyweight wrestlers to, you know,
Sean:move on to the heavyweight division, in their 30, 40 plus years of existence.
Sean:Only four men have won the junior heavyweight championship and
Sean:the heavyweight championship.
Sean:So it's very difficult for I guess it's a little bit, Yeah.
Sean:it's, it's difficult for small guys to get bigger, you know,
Sean:the guys that did translate.
Sean:Were skinny guys that were tall.
Sean:So they were able to build mass as a small guy.
Sean:You can only build so much mass, you know, so lagger just never got over that hump.
Sean:And, you know, they rode him, you know, he was the top guy in the
Sean:junior heavyweight division for,
Sean:20 something years.
Sean:So
Sean:they just, uh, he could never
Sean:get big enough for Owen.
Sean:It was similar for size.
Sean:I want would be
Sean:uh, you know, he would be a heavyweight today.
Sean:is just back in the nineties and eighties, they're picking fucking
Sean:football players that couldn't make it.
Sean:They're picking like dudes jacked up on so many steroids.
Sean:So I won was never the correct size and backstage, he didn't have the correct
Sean:quote unquote personality because he never took things too seriously.
Sean:He was friend to almost everybody backstage but, uh, according to
Sean:triple H, uh, oh, and heart never.
Sean:Had he never
Sean:seemed like he wanted to be the Top He seemed like he was happy, just
Sean:wrestling and making money for his family, but talent wise alone, you
Sean:know, that's why he's on this list.
Sean:He should be, he's just as good, if not better than most of
Sean:world champions in any company.
Sean:And then with Piper, uh, it was kind of just fights with
Sean:management and bad timing.
Sean:he just was always, uh, he was known as the, him and whole
Sean:Kogan where the franchise
Sean:players
Sean:of the WWF in the eighties.
Sean:But,
Josh:Wow.
Josh:And he never won.
Josh:That's
Sean:he never wanted, uh, he told Vince that he was going to go make a movie.
Sean:And Vince tried to convince him otherwise, uh, Roddy said
Sean:I'm going to make the movie.
Sean:Uh, so Vince
Sean:told rowdy Piper, uh, well, WWF doesn't need Roddy, Piper
Sean:And then Roddy, Piper looked him in the face and
Sean:said, Roddy, Piper doesn't need the
Sean:WWF.
Sean:And then he
Sean:went on to
Josh:person conversation.
Sean:he had, he
Sean:had the world or America's number one movie of that
Sean:year.
Sean:So
Josh:Wow.
Josh:He didn't need
Josh:them.
Sean:He didn't need them.
Sean:All right.
Sean:So That's the quick, uh, cliff notes, reason why they didn't win
Sean:the championship and the cliff note reason on, uh, those wrestlers.
Sean:But if you have any interest at all, at least Google these
Sean:guys and see how cool they look.
Sean:And, uh, if you are into wrestling, I'm sure you guys know who those three were.
Sean:And, uh, Yeah.
Sean:that's it for this half.
Sean:Uh, I got, I'm gonna, we're going to go so quick, next half.
Sean:Alright.
Sean:See you guys soon and we're fucking back, baby.
Sean:Here we go.
Sean:If you're on Patrion, there was nothing there.
Sean:That's right.
Sean:You're fucking paying the big bucks to not hear any ads.
Sean:And I love to see it.
Sean:All right.
Sean:With every episode we're jumping on into a, with every episode.
Sean:I do the second half with Reddit only shit.
Sean:So I picked up a couple of Reddit links for each, uh, for
Sean:each of these three wrestlers.
Sean:And, uh, we're going to hop right into it.
Sean:Shout out to Reddit user confliction.
Sean:Uh,
Sean:today I learned the only wrestler to appear in the PWI 500 list
Sean:every year for the past 26 years is Jewish and thunder liger.
Sean:So this man has been a top 500 wrestler, and this is including
Sean:indie wrestlers and every other wrestling company, you can think of
Sean:500, the top 500 for 26 years is, uh,
John:That's amazing.
Sean:he's the only one to do that
Josh:Wow.
Sean:Uh, moving on.
Sean:In his later years, Jewish and thunder Lego would do, you know, tours in
Sean:America and he had wrestle some indigent.
Sean:And he did this spot in, uh, a professional wrestling,
Sean:independent company called a PWG pro-wrestling gorilla.
Sean:He did a spot in a 10 man
Sean:tag match.
Sean:So that's
Sean:one team of five people against another team of five people where he had somebody.
Sean:Uh, have you guys watched Naruto?
Josh:No, I
Sean:No, there's a thing called a thousand years of pain where they fucking
Sean:stick two fingers in a, in a butt and then make somebody explode Jewish and thunder
Sean:liger, Uh, in a match with a shout out to Reddit user synth wave sacks.
Sean:Ooh.
Sean:I'm in a 10 man tag match.
Sean:Um, Malakai black, Matt riddle, Pete Dunn,
Sean:Chuck Taylor, Sammy Callaghan, Tommaso, Champa, Jeff Cobb, Cedric Alexander,
Sean:Brian Kendrick, and Julian thunder lagger.
Sean:If you're a wrestling
Sean:fan,
Sean:you
Sean:know, that's, you
Sean:know,
Sean:that's, a
Sean:stacked
Sean:match.
Sean:Uh, if you're not a wrestling fan, I have just informed you.
Sean:That
Sean:was a stacked
Sean:match.
Josh:Uh, Chuck Taylor, he
Sean:Yeah.
Sean:Chuck
Josh:like the guitar.
John:The bomb
Sean:Kentucky, gentlemen.
Josh:Isn't there a guitar called the Chuck
John:the grenade that the hand
John:grenade
Sean:there's also a shoe.
Sean:You might be thinking of
Sean:converse.
Sean:Chuck
Josh:That's what I'm thinking.
Josh:Thank you.
Sean:But a Jewish and thunder lagger Malakai black has given him credit
Sean:for this, came up with the spot that is most known for in this match where
Sean:Jewish and thunder lagger, uh, invite somebody to stick a thumb in his, but
Sean:he does.
Sean:So, and then
Sean:like, uh, They
Sean:stick the thumb in ,but this is not literally in the butthole, you know.
Sean:it's
Sean:It's wrestling, they're
Sean:fucking faking it, you know, but he sticks it
Sean:in there.
Sean:And then, And
Sean:Jewish and thunder, liger,
Sean:flexes, and it's, it hurts the guy whose thumb is
Sean:in there.
Sean:And then each proceeding wrestler proceeds to human centipede, thumbs in each other's
Sean:ass is what Jewish and thunder lagger leading it, flexing and
Sean:hurting all nine men in the circle.
Sean:Uh, it is one of the most popular indie spots.
Sean:You've probably seen a gift.
Sean:There's no other explanation will Osprey, which is a current big time wrestler.
Sean:He said, I still think this is the greatest moment to ever
Sean:happen in professional wrestling.
Sean:And, uh, yeah.
Sean:And like you said, this was a time before all of those guys were huge names on TV.
Sean:All of those guys, every single name I listed is either.
Sean:WWE AEW or new Japan.
Sean:So all huge the top three companies in the world.
Sean:So and now we go with Owen Hart.
Sean:Owen Hart was known, uh, backstage as a, uh, a jokester.
Sean:So shout out to Reddit user broken, underscore beat.
Sean:Jim Ross used to work for the WWF.
Sean:He was kind of like a talent acquisition and kinda talent liaison.
Sean:He would be the one to communicate with the talent.
Sean:And, uh, Jim Ross had a, was having a real bad day talking about substance
Sean:abuse to a, a certain group of wrestlers.
Sean:And, Owen could tell he was having a real bad day.
Sean:So whenever Owen.
Sean:Uh, I'll just leave it to Jim Ross.
Sean:Jim Ross once said I was having a long day talking with, people about
Sean:substance abuse and Owen saw that the door had been closed for several hours.
Sean:I catch him coming down the hall, stumbling, bouncing off the walls.
Sean:And when I get up close to him, he's got this white substance all under his nose.
Sean:Like he's been doing cocaine, obviously.
Sean:Owen was not a drug user at all.
Sean:So long story short, he had gone to the dessert table and
Sean:catering got a powdered donut.
Sean:Tried to cheer me up, said I could tell you're having a rough day.
Sean:And I just wanted to let you know, a lot of us
Sean:appreciate, what you're trying to do to help all those
Sean:guys.
Sean:So that's just one
Sean:story.
Josh:what a good guy.
Sean:Yeah.
Sean:All right.
Sean:He has so many stories like that.
Sean:And if you want to read more stories like that, you can, uh, check
Sean:out on pro wrestling stories.com.
Sean:Uh, there is no author, but, uh, yeah, you could find those stories on
Sean:pro-wrestling dot com and then I'll just share one thing from Roddy, Piper.
Sean:He, and some other WCW wrestlers, uh, Bobby, the brain
Sean:Heenan and stink we're on a talk
Sean:show
Sean:with hosted by bill
Sean:and I think bill Mahara was,
Sean:is that, How
Sean:do you say it, Mihir?
Sean:How do you say his name?
Josh:It's Mar you, you don't have to pronounce
Josh:the
Sean:Yeah.
Sean:Uh, okay.
John:So stupid.
John:Why is it even
Sean:Uh, white names,
Sean:you know what I mean?
Josh:yeah.
John:right?
Josh:Yeah.
Josh:Why is there a C in my
Josh:name?
Sean:Yeah.
Sean:Stupid ass.
Sean:Whatnot.
Sean:Just kidding.
Sean:So he was, they were on the show and I think the purpose was for bill to try
Sean:and get them to say wrestling was fake.
Sean:So, um, so bill was, you know, trying to go them into saying it's fake.
Sean:And he said, uh if it's all scripted, What, what is real about it?
Sean:What are you guys fighting about?
Sean:It's all scripted.
Sean:Nothing's real.
Sean:And then Roddy, Piper got, got hot for like, for real hot.
Sean:He said he stood up and he pointed at his wrist.
Sean:He said, broken wrist.
Sean:He lifted up his shirt, bruised ribs.
Sean:He pulled down his pants and lifted his boxers and said metal hip.
Sean:And he showed like the scar where his metal hit hip was.
Sean:And then bill Mahara was trying to be a smart ass.
Sean:He said, uh, I'm not, I can't listen to what you're saying
Sean:with your pants off or whatever.
Sean:I don't take my pants off in a room full of men or some shit like that.
Sean:And then Roddy
Sean:Piper looked him dead in the
Sean:eye, laughed and said, how the fuck did you get this job?
Sean:Bill
Sean:fucking roasted baby.
Josh:yeah, bill Meyer is an idiot sometimes.
Josh:Uh,
Sean:Yeah.
Josh:good, good for him.
Sean:All right.
Sean:I think I might do a guys.
Sean:I think I might beat the time.
Sean:Look at maniacs.
Sean:I know this is not important to you, but, uh, it is important
Sean:to me, uh, because John has to leave and I need him to read this.
Sean:We
John:I got four minutes.
Sean:Jesus Christ, uh, Vienna.
Sean:I'm sorry.
Sean:I don't think we're going to make it to the fanfic.
Sean:This is going to take longer than four minutes.
Sean:Uh, I'll get you on the next episode.
Sean:It won't be related to what I'm talking about, but I had to read this, uh,
Sean:and I'm going to make you guys read
Sean:this.
Sean:So stay tuned
Sean:for my next episode.
Sean:Uh, when we read more
Sean:disturbing smut and, uh, I guess we
Sean:got,
Josh:something fun we could do.
Josh:That's quick.
Josh:Uh, come up with a wrestling name.
John:Oh, okay,
Sean:here we go.
John:go ahead, Josh.
John:You first.
Josh:Oh, well, uh, I'm trying to think of
Josh:something that we'll do with
Josh:cults.
Josh:Uh, the, Oh, okay,
Josh:They could call me the Kool-Aid
Josh:man.
Sean:Um, I think that's trademarked.
Sean:I think that's definitely trademarked.
Josh:Or they could buy Kool-Aid.
Sean:You can, you should just take the gimmick of the naked
Sean:coconut guy.
Sean:That should be your gimmick naked.
Sean:Oh, you got to give a,
Sean:well, I guess you don't have to give
Sean:like a name
Sean:with the wrestler sometimes
Sean:they're just the, something like the
John:it does something.
Sean:Yeah.
John:Well, I guess I'll be the punish.
Josh:uh, okay.
Josh:Okay.
Josh:Also probably trademarked, but
John:probably
Sean:definitely trademarked
John:Hey, if he can go with the Kool-Aid man, I could go with the Punisher.
Josh:oh yeah.
Josh:It's not real, so
Sean:but did you see Marvel change?
Sean:The punishers
Sean:like chest logo.
John:Oh, what is it
Sean:They changed it because the
Sean:fucking maggot
Sean:dudes
Sean:fucking use his logo, even
Sean:though the Punisher fucking kills cops, man, the Punisher is the cop killer.
Sean:The Punisher is very problematic and against organized government and law
Sean:enforcement and everything.
Sean:You're
Sean:you have
Sean:support the
Sean:blue with a fucking Punisher logo.
Sean:Do you not know how dumb
Sean:you look
Josh:Uh, no.
Sean:Uh,
John:apologize, but I have to, I have to leave, uh, the episode's
John:going to be in good hands with these two, but I will see you all
John:next
Sean:uh, wicked main X.
Sean:We will make John read the entire smart.
Sean:My next
Sean:episode.
Sean:We'll see
Sean:you
Josh:yeah.
Sean:Uh, I guess as far as my wrestling name is, is,
Sean:uh, we're just doing these at, uh,
Sean:um,
Josh:Yeah.
Josh:I mean, if you can get more creative, you
Josh:want,
Sean:I don't.
Sean:Uh, I'm just gonna, we, we, we have the Kool-Aid wait, whoa, the father.
Josh:uh, well, I think John said cool.
Josh:The Kool-Aid man
Josh:was
Josh:okay.
Josh:They can call me the
Josh:juice
Josh:for
Sean:what about the Kool-Aid father?
Josh:Kool-Aid father?
Sean:Kool-Aid daddy
Josh:The thirst
Sean:did that thirst quencher
Sean:there we
Josh:lake.
Josh:So what did you mean
Josh:that
Josh:like, is there more, I should be adding to that
Josh:name?
Sean:now.
Sean:Cause sometimes,
Sean:you know, it's like, uh, people have a kayfabe real
Sean:name, but then like
Sean:a nickname, like the Hitman
Sean:bread, heart,
Sean:the
Josh:the
Josh:Kool-Aid man, Jim Jones
Sean:There it
Sean:is.
Sean:You know, what's crazy is that there's a cult leader, Jim Jones, but also
Sean:a very famous rapper also named Jim
Sean:Jones.
Josh:really
Sean:He's He's
Josh:like
Josh:that's his name?
Sean:Jim Jones.
Sean:Yeah.
Sean:That's his rapper name?
Sean:I don't
Sean:know if that's his.
Josh:Oh, yeah.
Sean:He's from like early, mid two
Sean:thousands.
Sean:I feel like that definitely definitely in the two thousands.
Josh:That's wild.
Josh:Yeah.
Josh:Cause he would have been born around the Jim Jones.
Josh:massacre.
Sean:Exactly.
Sean:You think, uh, at least change a rap name Why would you
Sean:go
Sean:famous with that one?
Josh:His real name is Joseph Jones.
Josh:The second.
Sean:definitely why you
Sean:go with Jim Jones?
Josh:Yeah.
Josh:It seems like no, no, no.
Josh:Anyway,
Sean:I guess it didn't affect him.
Sean:He had a
Sean:wildly successful career,
Sean:uh,
Josh:I didn't know who he was.
Sean:Canadians.
Sean:Um,
Josh:That's fair.
Josh:We only know
Josh:Drake
Sean:You only know Drake
Sean:and Bieber
Josh:and be, real.
Josh:Drake's heartbroken right
Josh:now.
Sean:is he cause of Rhianna's pregnant.
Josh:I don't know, but that's, that's a lot of the memes
Sean:Oh, Drake's always heartbroken.
Sean:Let's be
Sean:real.
Josh:that's true.
Josh:It'll be, there'll be a
Josh:great album.
Josh:Finally.
Josh:That'll come out
Sean:Yeah.
Sean:Did not love a certified
Sean:level.
Josh:last, two.
Josh:I've kind of flopped.
Josh:I'm not going to
Sean:I forgot what the one was before
Sean:CLB
Sean:scorpion.
Josh:Oh, that's a great question.
Josh:Um,
Sean:while you, while you Google that, I'll go ahead and just
Sean:drop my name.
Sean:I'll just keep it simple.
Sean:You guys have the names, I'll just be the bar
Sean:tender
Sean:and, uh,
Sean:and that, uh,
Sean:that'll
Sean:be my nickname.
Sean:All right.
Sean:so
Josh:Um,
Sean:how did you find it?
Josh:Yeah,
Josh:so it is scorpion you're
Josh:right?
Sean:Scorpion.
Sean:Scorpions.
Sean:All right?
Sean:ya.
Josh:Yeah.
Josh:View's was better though, like way better and more
Josh:life.
Sean:More life was nice More life at the time.
Sean:I did
Sean:not care for, and then I relisten to it like a month ago and
Sean:I was like
Sean:this is way better than CLB.
Sean:I don't really care for
Sean:CLB
Sean:at
Sean:all.
Josh:yeah.
Josh:Yeah.
Josh:There's only like one song on there that I'll listen to, but,
Josh:uh,
Sean:that's
Sean:that's, that's your
Josh:and, and we have to listen to it.
Josh:So
Sean:You're obligated.
Josh:morning, every morning, it's
Josh:our Anthem.
Josh:We have to play it for
Josh:20
Josh:minutes or whatever it
Josh:is,
Sean:Oh, man.
Sean:All right.
Sean:So I think that's going to be it for this episode.
Sean:I am technically under an hour, even though John
Sean:left, but I fucking did it guys, uh, uh, a lot of pressure, but, uh,
Sean:your boy came through and, uh, yeah, just continue to congratulate me.
Sean:That's how I'm going to end this episode.
Sean:Just, just kidding guys.
Sean:Uh, want to give a shout out to, uh, the cultivate fam and, uh, if you
Sean:enjoy this podcast and other cultivates shows, uh, like, we mentioned at
Sean:the beginning, we have a Patrion
Sean:account, uh, and just go check that out.
Sean:patrion.com/cultivate
Sean:podcast network.
Sean:We have different tiers
Sean:for the different shows
Sean:and, Um,
Josh:Um, side note, Sean and I did an episode together, uh, just like,
Josh:just like we're doing this episode
Sean:yeah, we're actually going to go ahead and do another hour right
Sean:now, the three worst wrestlers to ever
Sean:win.
Josh:John Siena.
Sean:John conseq, Nado.
Josh:Um, no, so we did, we did an episode together on my let's start a Colt.
Josh:Uh, it was
Josh:about a white supremacist.
Josh:Um, fun fact, we just got a comment on one of our videos that says, who are, yeah.
Josh:That says, who are these soy
Josh:boys?
Josh:So,
Sean:dude, I'm out milk all
Sean:day.
Sean:What are you
Sean:talking
Josh:oh yeah.
Sean:How it, I that's another episode is what is the origin of soy?
Sean:How did that
Sean:become a thing?
Josh:If I had to, uh, we, we shouldn't spoil it, but if I had to guess
Josh:it'd probably be like, you know, liberal, uh, like, people are usually
Josh:associated with like veganism and
Josh:stuff like that.
Josh:So they eat soy,
Josh:maybe
Sean:like real men drink cow milk.
Sean:That's them.
Sean:That's
Josh:eat beef.
Sean:That's men.
Sean:Fucking ridiculous.
Sean:I guess if being, uh,
Sean:being, uh, factual
Sean:and being not a white supremacist makes
Sean:us a soy
Sean:boy makes us soy
Sean:boys, then fuck it.
Sean:That'll be our TAC team
Sean:name where the soy boys,
Sean:dude.
Josh:Yeah, we need a soy soy milk sponsorship.
Josh:Uh
Sean:Uh
Sean:who's
Sean:who's
Josh:isn't isn't soy one of them like isn't there one called soy?
Sean:they fucking monopolize that
Sean:that's
Sean:crazy.
Josh:I don't know.
Josh:Uh,
Sean:I will give
Josh:oh,
Sean:at silk.
Sean:I
Sean:used to drink sail know when that was the
Josh:I still do.
Sean:when that was the
Sean:house I'm I'm on a planet.
Sean:Oat.
Sean:I like planet out
Sean:quite a
Sean:bit.
Josh:Oh, milk's good.
Josh:Yeah.
Josh:I just, uh, I find like almond milk and stuff like that, or so I
Josh:milk just easier to find usually than white oat milk here.
Josh:Anyway, I don't know.
Josh:Um, and it goes, it goes bad, less fast than regular milk, which is why
Josh:I buy almond milk and stuff like that.
Josh:Cause I don't drink enough
Josh:milk to, to go through a whole gallon of it.
Sean:fun fact, We're
Sean:going on a full trial now that I don't
Sean:have the wheel going full de-rail
Sean:we
Josh:We're going to go over the hour.
Sean:We're going over the hour.
Sean:Uh, fuck it.
Sean:But a fun fact, uh, we talk about it on shots and thoughts too, because
Sean:you know, uh, me, Ryan and Chris are childhood friends, but, um, when I
Sean:was a kid, my parents used to have three different, uh, gallons of milk
Sean:because, uh, me and my sisters each liked a different percentage of milk
Sean:and we ate so much fucking cereal.
Sean:and drank so much
Josh:oh man
Sean:we would go through a gallon
Sean:and like a week or two.
Sean:By ourselves.
Sean:Yeah.
Sean:I was like, I'm never going to break a bone until I actually broke a bone.
Sean:And it was like, oh
Sean:shit.
Josh:Well, yeah, we used to drink a
Josh:lot of milk as kids do, but it was because of cereal and stuff like that as well.
Josh:Um, yeah.
Josh:Yeah.
Josh:I, I still to this day will, if I have cereal in my
Josh:house, it's gone and
Josh:like, David.
Sean:So we're, yeah, we're, Khamenei X we're in it for the long haul of episodes,
Sean:not fucking over, uh, this is valid now this is a week after Valentine's day.
Sean:So,
Sean:so my wife, whenever we wake up on the weekends, you know, we never get to have
Sean:mornings together cause she's worked from home and I'm I go to the office.
Sean:Uh, so on the weekends, you know, we like to have breakfast together
Sean:and you know, she likes to have like, you know, she likes
Sean:to,
Josh:Eggs,
Sean:cook,
Sean:you know, have a nice
Sean:breakfast and then I'm just like,
Sean:I never get
Sean:it.
Sean:He'd see real anymore.
Sean:And I look,
Sean:I just,
Sean:I mean, I could wake up early on the
Sean:weekdays and not be
Sean:rushing to
Josh:buck that.
Sean:you know,
Sean:sometimes
Sean:I'm just
Sean:like, you know, soon it'll be kind of nice, like sooner way too
Sean:bad,
Sean:you know what I mean?
Josh:Honestly, uh, what, I've, what I've done since college, basically
Josh:what I'll do is I'll do cereal snacks.
Josh:So, you know, after dinner, you know, uh, it's usually a smaller
Josh:role than I'll do for breakfast,
Josh:but, you know, throw a nice sugary bowl of cereal in for,
Josh:for, uh, an after dinner snack.
Josh:That's kind of when I get my cereal.
Josh:And so, um, there's your,
Josh:I dunno, life hack, I guess you'd
Sean:Life act out the little life to,
Josh:a little life tip.
Josh:You don't have to have
Josh:it
Josh:at breakfast.
Josh:So
Sean:yeah, you don't have to have a
Sean:full
Sean:bowl.
Sean:You could portion
Sean:control it,
Josh:Yeah, but you're not
Josh:going
Sean:but I'm not going to, I live in Texas.
Sean:Everything is bigger here, you know?
Josh:our
Josh:bowls size of size of mixing bowls,
Sean:my weight,
Sean:that's
Josh:morbidly obese.
Sean:obese.
Sean:that's a that's a sponsor.
Sean:We should try and get.
Sean:I'm not going to say their name until they
Sean:pay us, but,
Sean:uh, uh,
Josh:series.
Sean:not The healthier suit.
Sean:Well, I guess it's healthier
Sean:but the sugary cereal
Sean:made for
Sean:adults.
Sean:Uh,
Sean:the,
Josh:we talking, we're talking to the
Josh:magic
Sean:yeah, yeah, we, we can't say their name.
Sean:You
Sean:gotta bleep
Josh:Oh, sorry.
Josh:Blank that out.
Sean:pay us.
Sean:We gotta leave him
Sean:wanting
Sean:the cat.
Sean:But, uh, yeah, we should.
Sean:That's a, that's a, future.
Sean:Uh,
Josh:that's a feature get, maybe.
Sean:a future get, but, Uh,
Sean:with that said,
Sean:uh, I have gone over
Sean:the
Sean:hour successfully.
Josh:made them go over the hour here.
Josh:Welcome waking me
Sean:We're going to go ahead and end the episode there.
Sean:Thank you guys for listening.
Sean:Cultivate podcast network.
Sean:That's our Patrion URL, patrion.com/cultivate podcast network.
Sean:I'm going to try and say it five times every time I host.
Sean:So, uh, Yeah.
Sean:Thanks for listening.
Sean:We'll get it.
Sean:We'll see you guys next week where, uh,
Sean:I guess stay tuned
Sean:three weeks
Sean:to, uh, hear the smart that I would
Sean:have had us all three read, but uh,
Sean:you'll get to listen to
Sean:John.
Sean:Read it by himself
Josh:Or if I can't think of what to do in my next episode, I'll
Josh:just get someone to do it then.
Sean:and anytime we don't have content I'm blasting, John
Sean:would that
Sean:smart?
Josh:Hell yeah.
Josh:That'll be your bonus, maybe.
Sean:maybe.
Sean:All right.
Sean:Thanks
Sean:guys.
Sean:We'll see you guys next week.