#47: Responding To TikTok Comments, The History of The Banana Republic & More!
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What's up Wikimaniacs! In Responding To TikTok Comments, The History of The Banana Republic & More! we will be responding to a few TikTok comments, Sean tells us about how he graduated from Panera Bread, and at the end, we will be covering the history of the Banana Republic.
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Speaker:My name is Josh shell and I am your host for today with me are my amazing COVID.
Speaker:John concept natto and Sean Salvino.
Speaker:How's it going guys?
Speaker:John's got,
Speaker:Sean's gone.
Speaker:Not going here.
Speaker:I'm here.
Speaker:Not visually, but what's going on shit.
Speaker:See, this is what happens when you pay for a phone app instead of an actual
Speaker:webcam.
Speaker:Someone's trying to call you right now.
Speaker:I
Speaker:tried to maneuver my camera so you could see the logo
Speaker:of a.
Speaker:Oh, he's he's, he's doing a brand thing again, my barber's hoodie.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:You better
Speaker:believe it.
Speaker:Barbara's heady.
Speaker:Whose hat you got on there?
Speaker:Sean,
Speaker:I got my, is this mirrored?
Speaker:We gotta fix that guys.
Speaker:We can't have that.
Speaker:I don't know if it will, how it will be in editing, but that's fair.
Speaker:That's fair.
Speaker:It might, it might be
Speaker:wearing my cohost.
Speaker:I'm wearing my co-host from shots and thoughts and a may street wear brand day off.
Speaker:And, uh, my barber gave me a free hoodie.
Speaker:He asked that I wear it when we record.
Speaker:So thank you for the free hoodie.
Speaker:I appreciate it.
Speaker:Shout out at clips, cuts on Instagram and why can't we get
Speaker:free stuff?
Speaker:Yeah, fuck up.
Speaker:Like, all my barbers said was, Hey, if you want to clean up your neck, be sure to come back.
Speaker:And I said, why didn't you do that to begin with.
Speaker:Hey, come to Houston, bro.
Speaker:The Southern hospitality is
Speaker:okay.
Speaker:Yeah, maybe I'll try it.
Speaker:Is it cliffs cuts?
Speaker:You said cliffs.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Maybe I'll try that out.
Speaker:When I come down to Houston,
Speaker:imagine Joshua fucking fresh has fade in a lineup.
Speaker:God bro.
Speaker:He's got her lined up on the beach.
Speaker:Gotta get him a grip.
Speaker:It's hard to see before we hop into the episode today.
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Speaker:I found you all on Tik TOK and was instantly hooked.
Speaker:Thank you for the awesome content and quote.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:Thank you.
Speaker:Jason, the double oh seven.
Speaker:We appreciate that nice review.
Speaker:And we love hearing that people from tick Docker moving over to our podcasts.
Speaker:That's that's awesome to hear.
Speaker:We appreciate
Speaker:it.
Speaker:I am a little bit, I was excited.
Speaker:Whenever you said Jason D I was like
Speaker:I was like, holy shit.
Speaker:We made it, man.
Speaker:But you know what, Jason?
Speaker:Thank you cinder.
Speaker:There you go.
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:you the real one, bro?
Speaker:Five stars.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
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Speaker:I said it right at, I had a friend asked me he's like, is that a bit like, are you doing.
Speaker:And I'm like, no, I am just dyslexic.
Speaker:I cannot, I cannot say, man, you don't, you don't others.
Speaker:Me and John are doing a bit.
Speaker:I am not.
Speaker:I'm just severely incapable of saying that word correctly.
Speaker:So, uh, so there I said at this time, Do not expect it going forward.
Speaker:It's a brick background, bro.
Speaker:Like that shit is, he's a changed man with his new layout.
Speaker:It makes me look smart, all bricked up.
Speaker:Josh.
Speaker:He
Speaker:loved to see it.
Speaker:Bricks.
Speaker:Brick squad.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I need some books on the shelves so that I look smarter and that's, but yeah, you can become a patron at patrion.com/cultivate podcast network.
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Speaker:All donations go towards hosting costs and equipment for us as well as the shows in our net.
Speaker:So that maybe one day Sean will have a brick behind him.
Speaker:We'll be all bricked up.
Speaker:There's the joke.
Speaker:Fuck.
Speaker:I missed, I missed on the joke.
Speaker:I would love to be bricked up Wikipedia.
Speaker:I would love brick that punchline
Speaker:my God,
Speaker:my bad.
Speaker:Um, so we're going to start off today.
Speaker:Just figuring out how you guys are.
Speaker:What's what's going on in your lives, John, you had a wedding recently.
Speaker:You went.
Speaker:How was that?
Speaker:It
Speaker:was so fun and it was good to see the good friends that I grew up with.
Speaker:And everyone's kind of grown now.
Speaker:You know, everyone's got man, mostly everyone's boot up, got to see some of my good brothers.
Speaker:We had a fuck ton of a good time.
Speaker:I don't remember.
Speaker:Half of the time will happen because I was completely drunk, but it was beautiful.
Speaker:Shout out to.
Speaker:Can you show the YouTube subscribers, the good brother or the brotherhood tat.
Speaker:Oh, shh.
Speaker:If it's an inappropriate place, I don't know where it's at, to be honest with
Speaker:you.
Speaker:So, so the, the wedding that I went to, we're in a it's.
Speaker:We're not in a gang.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:It's just, it's just, I don't know.
Speaker:We love X-Men growing up.
Speaker:So that's the backstory we love.
Speaker:X-Men growing up.
Speaker:Also the bad,
Speaker:the brotherhood was like the group that we kind of resonated with.
Speaker:And yeah, so we have a, we have a tattoo, it's an Amber Graham.
Speaker:So you, if you read it this way, it says brotherhood.
Speaker:And if you read it this way, it also reads brotherhood.
Speaker:So it's a group of us.
Speaker:So let's go.
Speaker:And those are my they're my I'm the only kid.
Speaker:So they're my blood brothers
Speaker:now.
Speaker:That's cool.
Speaker:So you, did you guys did that specifically for the wedding party or you did that?
Speaker:Oh, we've had
Speaker:this for like a
Speaker:decade already.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:I was confused.
Speaker:I was like, oh, did, did the groom ask you guys to get tattoos for the, his wedding?
Speaker:Like I was like, I would say no, personally, I feel
Speaker:like it would have been easy to convince that party since y'all were Downing a bottle of Hennessy and our.
Speaker:We had so much, we had too
Speaker:much
Speaker:to my goodness.
Speaker:I've never woken up to not having a message from John.
Speaker:And I knew the next day, John must've been hung over.
Speaker:Cause he didn't message us for hours.
Speaker:I was also drinking at that time.
Speaker:So
Speaker:still going
Speaker:Aliceville going.
Speaker:I was burping Hennessy.
Speaker:Three days after I came back.
Speaker:Oh, Jesus.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:The best way to get rid of a hangover is to continue the, I heard the dogs,
Speaker:it gets rid of it, right.
Speaker:Delays the delays.
Speaker:It that's awesome.
Speaker:And I don't want to spoil the story too much, but you did see someone more famous than Sean at the,
Speaker:and it's probably one of the only people that I'm actually taller than.
Speaker:So if any of you watch 90 day fiance.
Speaker:Fuck.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I saw big ed.
Speaker:I saw a big ad in the airport.
Speaker:Can you explain?
Speaker:Cause I've never watched 90 day fiance.
Speaker:Oh, brother.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:I don't watch it like extensively.
Speaker:I only watch it when my wife watches it in the background.
Speaker:And then when we're eating, like we have a TV in the kitchen, so we were like, okay, let's just eat and watch something.
Speaker:So pretty much a 90 day fiance is typically an American guy or a girl.
Speaker:They go to a foreign country.
Speaker:Supposedly the love of their life.
Speaker:And they try to do this thing where it's called a K one visa.
Speaker:So what they would have to do is they'd have to, um, kind of get married within the 90 days.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:That's the
Speaker:concept.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So you have to get, yeah, you have to get married before the visa runs out, which is
Speaker:well, in order for them to fall in love in 90 days, basically.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Well, they like.
Speaker:So I think big ed was on before the done a lot of seasons.
Speaker:So they like date using a lot of shit because he's marketable.
Speaker:Look at that man.
Speaker:So like, usually it's like before the 90 days where they're like dating and usually the American person will like visit or try to visit the foreign person.
Speaker:And then if that goes successfully, then there'll be on actual 90 day fiance where they bring that person over to America.
Speaker:On the K one visa and then try to get married and then their life leading up to the wedding and kind of after the wedding, then they have after the 90 day, which is she?
Speaker:Oh, the tele bro.
Speaker:We were watching on Hulu.
Speaker:The tele was fucking three episodes.
Speaker:I'm like, they fucking, they milked this shit out, bro.
Speaker:They, they got it down
Speaker:to a side bet movie where he's always being filmed.
Speaker:And he just thinks it's it's it's life, but he's Jerry, Jim Carrey.
Speaker:What's that movie called?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So we're not far from that now is what, I'm, what I'm gathering from this show.
Speaker:Oh, no, they get into
Speaker:everything.
Speaker:Like just, just the moment they were about to consummate, like they're there and then they just cuts off.
Speaker:Like the lights
Speaker:turned off.
Speaker:Oh God, that's too
Speaker:much.
Speaker:And that's just cause they cut it off for this.
Speaker:The mix and the cameras are still alive,
Speaker:but they're just making porn right now.
Speaker:They just don't.
Speaker:They just don't show it.
Speaker:It's behind.
Speaker:That's a behind the scenes.
Speaker:There's a market.
Speaker:That's a, that's the total fear of HGTV.
Speaker:So did you, so you saw him at the airport.
Speaker:Did you, did you go up to him and did you say anything?
Speaker:Actually, I have.
Speaker:That I think that I've ran across like celebrities a lot kind of in my life, mostly brag about it, you know, whatever.
Speaker:It's mostly restless, like an airport.
Speaker:I have this rule where it's like, I'm an acknowledged them, but if I see them like rushing, I'm like, okay, there's gotta be some point of like, self-respect just be like, all right.
Speaker:They got somewhere to go to.
Speaker:If they stop, then I'm going, okay.
Speaker:Can I take a picture with you?
Speaker:Or like, you know, yada, yada.
Speaker:But if they're like, look at like the running or going to the next terminal and be like, hi, nice to meet you.
Speaker:I just was like, Hey, big head.
Speaker:And he was like, Hey, what's up, man?
Speaker:And then kind of just went on our Merry way.
Speaker:Oh, it's like restaurants, gyms.
Speaker:I hate that.
Speaker:Like, if, if we were ever celebrities and someone like, does that shit, like, I'd feel like it's like.
Speaker:In a way, oh, here's something I should have brought up during the last episode.
Speaker:When we're talking about work, we can work stories.
Speaker:Uh, I used to work at Panera bread.
Speaker:I don't know if Panera bread is, is everywhere.
Speaker:Do they have that?
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:I used to work at Panera bread my first day on the job.
Speaker:Uh, somebody like the manager, the shift manager, whatever.
Speaker:All right, everybody, JJ watt is you just put it in an order.
Speaker:We gotta, we gotta bring food to his car.
Speaker:And I was like, oh shit, fucking JJ watt frequence.
Speaker:This Panera is of lucky me, I guess.
Speaker:And then I think it was just a cashier or I was just learning.
Speaker:I was a trainee.
Speaker:I think they called their learning service.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I was training.
Speaker:They called it.
Speaker:Uh, learning service, orientation service at bread university.
Speaker:I was chilling that bread.
Speaker:You know what I mean?
Speaker:And then I can go
Speaker:to the cashier.
Speaker:I was chilling at the bread.
Speaker:You shout out all my expert,
Speaker:narrow walkers, who was the mascot alumni is with me.
Speaker:It was a salad.
Speaker:So sour dough,
Speaker:I'll fucking bag, bro, and everything and everything.
Speaker:Big.
Speaker:Fuck.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I get up off my workstation at bread university and I walk up to the cashier section and then fucking six foot or whatever, giant of a man, JJ watt is just standing in the Panera bread.
Speaker:I'm like, yo, we're supposed to deliver this to your car.
Speaker:So you don't have to be like seen
Speaker:and shit.
Speaker:You were like, oh shit.
Speaker:It goes to my university.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Whoa, fucking just, are you an alumni as well?
Speaker:If, if Sean ever becomes like a fucking athlete, you know how they do like player intros?
Speaker:Sean Salvino quarterback Panera or bread university.
Speaker:I'll have a everything they built next to my face.
Speaker:Sean Salvino quarterback red.
Speaker:You
Speaker:basically can suit biology.
Speaker:Sponsor us
Speaker:my minor.
Speaker:Didn't oh God.
Speaker:That's funny.
Speaker:What about, what about you, Sean?
Speaker:Oh, yeah.
Speaker:So sorry, John.
Speaker:So you S you were going to say if we ever become famous enough, how would you react to someone coming up to you?
Speaker:It depends on a situation.
Speaker:If, if I'm like, if I'm working out, let's say I'm mid set and someone just be like, who could you would you I'm like, if you wait.
Speaker:Sure.
Speaker:Or like, if I'm having dinner with my wife and we're running.
Speaker:No, no, I'm big.
Speaker:Leaguing that scenario.
Speaker:If my girlfriend's there and someone asked me to take a picture, I'll be like, oh yeah, I got this.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:no, I'm not a fan of that.
Speaker:But if it's like, if I'm at a store sure.
Speaker:Whatever, like that's, I think that's okay.
Speaker:But if it's like a moment where like I need concentration or I'm spending time with someone.
Speaker:Or don't wait in front of my hotel too.
Speaker:That's a pet peeve of mine.
Speaker:Like every, like all these entitled fan, sometimes all we were waiting in front of the lobby of your hotel.
Speaker:Don't do that.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Oh, that's like a big wrestling thing, John and I are big wrestling fans.
Speaker:They always complain about, I guess fans like figure out what flights they take and like what hotels they're staying at.
Speaker:It's creepy.
Speaker:The wrestlers are like, we try to travel and do our job, but if you see it as set of meet or greet, like when we're mentally in the mindset, That's cool.
Speaker:Wild, but like, if it's 4:00 AM and you're at the airport, I don't want to see you.
Speaker:And I'm like, that makes sense that if I can,
Speaker:of course.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Didn't Jake, Paul have that.
Speaker:When he had the content house, there was a bunch of like fans outside their house.
Speaker:Cause they knew where they lived.
Speaker:And so they were always blocking that street.
Speaker:Like that's that's too much.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Like
Speaker:I'm gonna use Kanye again, for example, there's, there's always this video that comes out, but paparazzi at four in the morning is a good morning.
Speaker:And he's all pissy.
Speaker:No one wants to fucking say hi to a Bob brought to you at four in the fucking morning.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:That's dude
Speaker:paparazzi
Speaker:videos.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Why is that?
Speaker:Not illegal.
Speaker:Crazy
Speaker:respectful guys.
Speaker:Honestly.
Speaker:And they have like zoom.
Speaker:They have, they have cameras with some pretty awesome.
Speaker:So you don't need to be that close and like getting in the way of their vehicles and shit.
Speaker:That's what
Speaker:there's on the flip side with that though, like, I've asked, let's say just there just be not as nice as possible.
Speaker:And they asked then I'd be a little more lenient.
Speaker:Cause there was some times when like wrestler, like when I see wrestlers sometimes I'd see them like funny story, like there's this wrestler named Oscar.
Speaker:Like I just happened to be standing next to her, an Uber, like Uber line.
Speaker:And I was just like, oh my God, your OSCA.
Speaker:I mean, she didn't really, she speaks Japanese.
Speaker:So I didn't, I didn't really understand each other.
Speaker:I could have been.
Speaker:Hey, your ass go.
Speaker:Holy shit.
Speaker:And then everyone would fucking know that she's right there, but I just stood there and I was just like, Hey, big fan.
Speaker:And then we just both waited in line.
Speaker:That's fair.
Speaker:Oh, I one time saw a Houston, Texas player.
Speaker:I was getting cupcakes with my now wife, a cupcake cupcake.
Speaker:You buy my graduate school.
Speaker:And when I was walking out with my cupcakes, I saw one of the Houston Texans.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:And then not thinking, I was like, oh, could I get a picture?
Speaker:And he was like, yeah, just let me like, get my cupcake and then I'll come outside.
Speaker:And then I was like, I was sitting outside and I was like, actually, no, let's just look.
Speaker:Go like he's trying to get cupcakes with his girl or whatever.
Speaker:And then while we were leaving, I was like, oh, and the Texans fucking lost today.
Speaker:So he's probably, this is fucking some guilt cupcakes that he doesn't want to take a picture with me.
Speaker:Of course not.
Speaker:So I was like, let's just get the fuck out of here.
Speaker:Fuck.
Speaker:Is that guy?
Speaker:This is why I hate Houston.
Speaker:All the fans are fucking,
Speaker:I feel, yeah, I've I've as someone who's never met anyone famous, I feel it would be weird to ask.
Speaker:Another grown man to take a picture with, you know what I mean, change.
Speaker:Like, I feel there's PR I mean, I don't blame people that want to know, but like, I feel you, I get it.
Speaker:But I just, I don't think I would feel comfortable enough to do it.
Speaker:It's it is a cool story that you can just be like, oh yeah.
Speaker:I saw JJ Watson my university the other day.
Speaker:Like, you know what I mean?
Speaker:I like this
Speaker:bit that we're going to bread university was my actual school, which would explain why I'm a dumb ass, but I have a bachelor's degree, wicked maniacs.
Speaker:I'm not
Speaker:that pedestal, Sean.
Speaker:Sean, you can not become a lawyer.
Speaker:If you go to bread university,
Speaker:it's just a stepping stone
Speaker:mom.
Speaker:We have a great wrestling program.
Speaker:Oh, God.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So I, I don't know.
Speaker:I don't, I don't think I would personally ever do it, but I do get, like, it is part of your job, quote, unquote, to, you know, make time for fans.
Speaker:It's part of your brand, you know, building that up.
Speaker:True.
Speaker:So I get it.
Speaker:But at the same time, it's like, people are just trying to live their lives, get a cupcake, you know, it's like no
Speaker:shot.
Speaker:It's like no shot to fans.
Speaker:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker:I'm not saying just because you're a fan you're like that.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I'm just saying approach it like humanely as possible.
Speaker:Cause it's how I put it in your shoes.
Speaker:Like how would you feel if you were in a rush and someone keeps interrupting.
Speaker:True.
Speaker:Or you were in a zone and someone keeps fucking like bothering you.
Speaker:That's just how this situation.
Speaker:I want people to feel
Speaker:L if I'm walking on the sidewalk and I see someone else coming in the other way, I get annoyed and I'm like, fuck.
Speaker:Now I have to go around them.
Speaker:And it's, I'm a very, a very introverted person.
Speaker:So I can, I can definitely feel for these people.
Speaker:One thing I do want to get onto before we move on to my actual topic today.
Speaker:It's the banana Republic.
Speaker:Not the store, not the university either.
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:Banana you.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So this is going to be a few weeks old now, but we did release a tick-tock about maternity leave.
Speaker:I'm trying to remember if Sean was on that one.
Speaker:I don't think he was, was he?
Speaker:I don't think, did you watch that one?
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:I did.
Speaker:I watched all of them or at least all the ones I'm
Speaker:not in.
Speaker:Fair enough.
Speaker:You do hate watching yourself.
Speaker:I was there, you know, they'd be fair.
Speaker:So basically the, the premise was the man wanted to know if he was an asshole for not taking night shifts when his wife was on maternity leave while he was at work.
Speaker:So he works during the day, comes home and his wife is taking care of the baby 24 7 basis.
Speaker:She might get a small break after he comes home from work until he goes to bed basic.
Speaker:And then he was wondering if he should do more because she was saying it was unfair.
Speaker:Can I
Speaker:go in, can I go in on this?
Speaker:We surprising.
Speaker:I mean, God, I was shocked at the response we got, we got about a 50, 50.
Speaker:If, if you disagree with this, or if you think he's the asshole, you're an asshole.
Speaker:And if, uh, you don't think he's an asshole, you're an asshole.
Speaker:It was a very polarizing wow comment section.
Speaker:Listen, we were going into that in that such scenario, his wife clearly had an issue.
Speaker:With how things were going, right.
Speaker:She, and you never, you don't, you don't know like your babies might've been perfect.
Speaker:Angels, never cried, slept all the time.
Speaker:And so if you're a mother who managed to do 24 7 baby watch and night shift, but you know what I mean?
Speaker:And, and you were fine with that app, more power to you.
Speaker:That's awesome.
Speaker:But this scenario felt a little different because she's clearly bringing up an issue and we were just addressing.
Speaker:If, if he's not willing to, you know, step in during some of the nights or some points during the night, then he's kind of an asshole, right?
Speaker:Like, that's your kid, 50 50.
Speaker:I don't, you know, I don't care if you're, if you're off doing work, you have the obligation to take care of your kid.
Speaker:Now, like I said, some of those comments were very toxic.
Speaker:I do love the response.
Speaker:It's it's, it's, it's interesting to see the different, different response, but I don't know the amount of people in the comments willing to allow their spouse to do the bare minimum was outstanding or there
Speaker:And it was sad to see in my.
Speaker:I don't know if you have any thoughts, John.
Speaker:Cause you were also in that clip.
Speaker:I'll let Sean go first.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Just real quick.
Speaker:I don't ever read the comments.
Speaker:I'm not connected to the tock, but I will say, you know, everyone's entitled to their own opinion, good comments or bad comments.
Speaker:You could disagree with us.
Speaker:That's I mean, I personally have no issues with that.
Speaker:I don't think they'll let you guys know.
Speaker:But I will say every couple, they have their own thing.
Speaker:You know what I mean?
Speaker:If that's what works for you, that will work.
Speaker:That's what works for you.
Speaker:The issue is when you're like, this is what works for me.
Speaker:And if you don't agree, you buddy, like that's weird.
Speaker:That's big time, weird energy.
Speaker:Like, I don't know.
Speaker:Some couples, if that's, if that's how they get down.
Speaker:And that's like, they like traditional husband, wife duties or whatever, and that's, you know, if they're not harming anybody else, that's just the way they flow.
Speaker:That's how they flow.
Speaker:But I will say, uh, like Josh said, and the story, the wife brought up, the fact like, Hey, this isn't fair.
Speaker:Like, you know, we should kinda figure something out to, you know, make it yeah.
Speaker:Because yes, you're working and then you come home, I guess she's not working, but she's taking care of maternity leave.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And then that's a 24 hour thing.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Maternity leave.
Speaker:That's a, that's a 24 hour thing.
Speaker:Uh, when she was pregnant, she can't really get out of that.
Speaker:That's a 24 hour thing.
Speaker:So what I mean, if she has a problem with.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:As a husband, you should be doing everything you can to make your wife comfortable.
Speaker:Cause then, you know, one, that's your wife.
Speaker:And two, if she's a more rested, comfortable wife, she's probably a more rested and comfortable mother.
Speaker:AKA, your kid is getting a
Speaker:better upbringing.
Speaker:The benefits of that
Speaker:as well.
Speaker:So.
Speaker:I don't know, maybe don't be so judge-y one way or the other.
Speaker:I know, I know the whole aspect of am I the asshole and you know, you know, but we're only judging one person.
Speaker:We're not saying if you agree with this person, you're a fucking asshole.
Speaker:So like, I don't know.
Speaker:That's, that's
Speaker:big, weird.
Speaker:Nicky's versa.
Speaker:If you just like, there were, there were comments to be fair.
Speaker:Hey, I disagree.
Speaker:This, this is what worked for me and my husband.
Speaker:That that's totally cool.
Speaker:No, no issues there.
Speaker:You guys do whatever, you know, if your husband, some people were like, my husband does works with big trucks.
Speaker:Like he's driving all the time.
Speaker:Probably you want to go into on that.
Speaker:I was going to say if there was one possible, like edit that we can make from the statements that we made.
Speaker:We should have taken to account that there are other types of jobs out there that is not office.
Speaker:Really.
Speaker:I think we did in the actual episode, I just don't think I made it to the clip.
Speaker:That might be my bad.
Speaker:I
Speaker:don't remember that at all.
Speaker:So that's on us.
Speaker:Oh, that's on me to not remember, but yes, chances are, there's going to be more dangerous jobs where it is more reasonable for one of the partners who happens to be the provider.
Speaker:And from what it seems like to get apples, apples, sleep, otherwise it be like their life in risk, or like risking anyone out there.
Speaker:But Laquisha alluded to the nine months that homegirl was pregnant.
Speaker:She was on 24 7.
Speaker:And the comments that kind of.
Speaker:Gaius rubbed me the wrong way where like, some of the people were saying like, oh, why are they concerned about it?
Speaker:Childbirth are so easy.
Speaker:Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker:Like it worked for my husband and I, like, we were good at popped out like five babies wouldn't have any problem, but
Speaker:that's not how it works.
Speaker:He's referring to
Speaker:yeah, everybody though, like, you know, just some people like childbirth might be something as easy as, I don't know.
Speaker:Easy for them.
Speaker:So crazy.
Speaker:Like some could be for some people, it can be traumatic.
Speaker:There's, there's a thing called postpartum depression, just because you didn't get it.
Speaker:My girl and my guy, whatever, like, you know, it it's, it's not a universal thing for everybody.
Speaker:Like everyone, like everyone carries a little different just because it was like for you doesn't mean it wasn't like it's heavy for someone else, you know?
Speaker:That's just my take on it.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:It's wild that you have to even explain that childbirth is different for everybody.
Speaker:Like.
Speaker:Of fucking course, you know what I mean?
Speaker:Like, that's crazy that, I mean, obviously we're three men, like of course we could be completely wrong, but I would just assume that there's a reason why people have like labor for like an hour and people have labor for like 24 plus hours.
Speaker:There's a reason why there's natural people that could do natural childbirth where people that need like C-sections, you know what I mean?
Speaker:I had just imagined, I mean, Women correct me if I'm wrong, but I imagine every birth is different.
Speaker:I really, I would assume that's probably a correct take.
Speaker:Yes, I would
Speaker:assume.
Speaker:That's correct.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So it's like, why, why would you bunch
Speaker:all births into and on top of that, every, every baby is different, right?
Speaker:So like you could have a perfectly fine, like childbirth, like nothing goes wrong.
Speaker:It's perfectly smooth.
Speaker:You're in and out 20 minutes, tops.
Speaker:I don't know how birthing works.
Speaker:I apologize.
Speaker:But then you go back home and maybe the baby is just constantly crying 24 7.
Speaker:So you're not getting rest.
Speaker:Your husband's not getting rest.
Speaker:And it's just a cycle of, that's a difficult situation.
Speaker:It's maybe more difficult than yours.
Speaker:We were coming at it from the point of empathy for the mother where she went through this life, changing body changing, psychological changing experience.
Speaker:And as a husband, you have to be there to help not only provide for her, but to emotionally support her and support the baby.
Speaker:When, when you need to take your 50% of the workload.
Speaker:And if you're saying, okay, I can't, I can't do nights then.
Speaker:Try and figure something out, have maybe your, your mother or your mother-in-law come in and have a few people helping out.
Speaker:If, if you have that family support, if you have that, that option, if you, if you physically can't because of your job, then help your wife to figure out another solution where she's not getting stressed
Speaker:So that's, I think that's where we were coming from more empathy towards the baby and the.
Speaker:We might've been a little too hard on the guy.
Speaker:Could I think, could
Speaker:I add, could I add something with that?
Speaker:I was going to say, like, I don't think we completely dunked on the guy though.
Speaker:That's the thing?
Speaker:No, like, no, we didn't.
Speaker:I think we, we said that, Hey, good on you for being kind of like emotionally intelligent and saying that, Hey, you do kind of recognize that it sounds asshole ish, but again, contributing all those factors.
Speaker:And not to say, I mean, not to, again, not to dunk on people who were like defending the bare minimum of people, but from, from the scenario that this guy gave, he did sound like he wanted to offer a lot more than I'm not going to say most men would, but a lot of people would in that scenario.
Speaker:So that, and that, that was all that, that was all.
Speaker:I was giving him so much props for that.
Speaker:Like, dude, the fact that you're.
Speaker:That you know, that this is all going on and you had the mental capacity to kind of, you know, lump it all in together.
Speaker:That's good on you.
Speaker:That's the first step now you and your spouse need to communicate and find that happy ground, which whichever works for you because you're a team you got to work together for the rest of that baby's life.
Speaker:So make it work for your.
Speaker:Yeah, I don't think I could, I could wrap it up any better.
Speaker:So that is that's perfect.
Speaker:No, Hey, Danny one, we do appreciate the conversation.
Speaker:Just try and keep it respectful.
Speaker:And, and I'd say, I'd say like 90, 95% were respectful that were just, you see the arguments in the conversation.
Speaker:So they're the ones that always pop up.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:So, yeah, just try and keep it respectful and just know that.
Speaker:Everyone's life is different and everyone can, you know, has different needs and different wants and just, you know, having different sides to an argument doesn't mean that the other person's anatomy
Speaker:yes.
Speaker:Be respectful or you're
Speaker:the asshole.
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And it does sound weird coming from the you're the asshole guys, but truly we're doing this one to get like, Talk about, you know, it's just real life shit and like learn from it as well.
Speaker:There are some assholes for sure.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker:But like also, you know, like where this is mostly a comedic effort, you know what I mean?
Speaker:We're not psychologists we're if I can digging Reddit where we're digging Reddit posts, you know what I mean?
Speaker:So it's like take everything with a grain of salt.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:This is supposed to be conversational, but don't like, get in, like there's no need to get in heated arguments in the comments.
Speaker:I mean, it does bring up the algorithm so, you know, do what you need to do, but I respect the negativity is a beep positive,
Speaker:positive.
Speaker:So we're going to end off on that and go to our ad break.
Speaker:Before we get into the banana Republic.
Speaker:Perhaps we'll see.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Another tick tock update.
Speaker:No.
Speaker:Did we
Speaker:can always keep pushing the bananas
Speaker:dude.
Speaker:We can keep pushing if you want
Speaker:pushing beat.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:We're going to take an ad break and then come back after the break.
Speaker:We're going to come back and talk about the banana Republic again, not the store.
Speaker:Boxers.
Speaker:Fuck the boxers, the university.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:We are back.
Speaker:Welcome back to the, what do you call this?
Speaker:The Wiki site.
Speaker:Not on Wiki though.
Speaker:I didn't, I didn't get this article from Wiki, so I apologize.
Speaker:Our, our name's a lie this week.
Speaker:Last for me, we loud cash would be a Reddit on Tik TOK.
Speaker:Oh
Speaker:shit.
Speaker:Honestly.
Speaker:Or, ah, I'm trying to think of a better name.
Speaker:Like let's take, talk about it.
Speaker:There we go.
Speaker:Oh, no, I like that.
Speaker:Of course John segment, when I do an update every week, uh,
Speaker:I like it.
Speaker:We are going to get into the banana Republic.
Speaker:So this article comes from thought code.com.
Speaker:I'll link that in the show notes.
Speaker:So do either of, you know, what the banana Republic is, but a banana Republic is, I guess, this.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:You said that,
Speaker:and then you guys said, you guys said boxers.
Speaker:I was
Speaker:confused about that.
Speaker:They must sell boxers.
Speaker:I guess John talks about them a lot.
Speaker:Oh, they sell
Speaker:boxers.
Speaker:Are those the boxers?
Speaker:That's all he's wearing right now.
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:That's all.
Speaker:He's.
Speaker:You don't know what's underneath here on our $25
Speaker:Patriots here.
Speaker:I know it's Ashley assless chaps.
Speaker:So yes, that's our uniform.
Speaker:I've already shipped them to y'all's house.
Speaker:The
Speaker:spread Eagle public though.
Speaker:It's not a full-on banana Republic mature.
Speaker:Oh God.
Speaker:So the definition of banana Republic was coined in 1901 by the American author.
Speaker:Oh Henry, which is hilarious.
Speaker:I love that.
Speaker:I have chocolate.
Speaker:You guys have Ohio.
Speaker:You guys don't have, oh, Henry's there.
Speaker:Do you feel like you talked about that?
Speaker:On our Halloween one.
Speaker:Oh, we, I only know about it because of you.
Speaker:That's
Speaker:right.
Speaker:So that's only funny to me
Speaker:and the other Canadians.
Speaker:We have a decent Canadian AKA
Speaker:Josh's face and my friends.
Speaker:Uh, so in his book, cabbages and Kings, he used the use the term to describe Honduras.
Speaker:So well it's economy, economy, people and government were being.
Speaker:Uh, we're being exploited by American owned United fruit company.
Speaker:So it is about dual.
Speaker:Oh shit.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So we're going to jump right into where this term came from.
Speaker:So during the early 19 hundreds, you know, there were a lot of plantations down in central slash south, south America, and Honduras specifically was big.
Speaker:Banana plantation, um, sugarcane, stuff like that.
Speaker:It still is, but that's when it kind of was starting.
Speaker:So in 1910, the American owned KU KU Mela QML oh, I don't know.
Speaker:QML fruit company.
Speaker:They bought 15,000 acres of agricultural land on the Caribbean coast of Honduras.
Speaker:At the time banana production was dominated by the American owned United fruit come.
Speaker:Cool.
Speaker:for a main fruit competitor, main competitor in 1911, fruit founder, American Sam Zemurray, along with American mercenary, general Lee Christmas orchestrated a successful sick Mary he's a mercenary.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Holy shit.
Speaker:That's sick back when Americans, well, actually they're still doing that and Ukraine, but back when Americans would just go to other countries and fucking.
Speaker:Shoot people.
Speaker:Do any of you guys watch the show power?
Speaker:No, can't make that joke.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:I apologize.
Speaker:Sorry.
Speaker:What shows do you watch?
Speaker:Power and snowfall,
Speaker:Ted lasso.
Speaker:God, no falls
Speaker:to shit.
Speaker:Hell yeah.
Speaker:I live in snowfall, so I don't want to over watch about it.
Speaker:God,
Speaker:that's
Speaker:about cold.
Speaker:So, so the, uh, these two Americans successfully.
Speaker:Orchestrated at Kuda Todd that replaced the elected government of Honduras with a military government headed by general manual Bonilla, who was a foreign, uh, a friend of foreign businesses.
Speaker:So basically they did this and I'm going to get into that a bit, but they did this because the current government was friendly towards.
Speaker:Their competitor.
Speaker:So they were like, fuck this.
Speaker:We don't want to, you know, we want to get rid of this, this guy, so that he'll help us.
Speaker:So the cutoff froze the Honduran economy, the internal instability allowed foreign corporations to act as defacto rulers of the country.
Speaker:In night in 1933, Sam Zemurray dissolved his QML fruit company and assumed control of its rival fruit.
Speaker:A United fruit come.
Speaker:United fruit soon became the sole employer of the Honduran people and took complete control of the country's transportation, communication facilities and communication facilities.
Speaker:So basically this company then becomes the government.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So this, like, it had good and bad like ups and downs to it, basically.
Speaker:It was like, and this is just for memory of what I've read.
Speaker:They ended up investing a lot in like the trade routes.
Speaker:So like infrastructure, as well as like, like, so roads and communication to these plantations and to trade routes, they really upgraded those.
Speaker:However, the rest of the country was just kind of in squalor and, um, because they basically own the government.
Speaker:They barely played their employees.
Speaker:It was trash, you know, like just.
Speaker:It's as if you, as if Jeff Bezos was owned a mountain.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So yeah, just low workers, you know, little pay time, a little paid, lots of time worked and it just it's a terrible place to live.
Speaker:So the company's control over the agriculture, transportation and political infrastructure of Honduras.
Speaker:The people began to call the United fruit company, El poop Pulpo or the octopus because it had its hands in every.
Speaker:It's
Speaker:Hydra.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:Sorry.
Speaker:It's kind of a
Speaker:cool last name.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Today Honduras remains the prototypical banana Republic.
Speaker:Well, bananas remain an important part of the hunter and economy and workers still complain of being mistreated by their American employers.
Speaker:Another product aimed at the American consumer has become a challenger, cocaine, power,
Speaker:and snowfall, baby.
Speaker:It's all about the cocaine.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:He's gen Z.
Speaker:I'm just saying
Speaker:these gen Z.
Speaker:Bananas.
Speaker:They want cocaine to get start their day because of its central location on the drug smuggling route, much of the cocaine bound for the United States either comes from or passes through Honduras with the drug.
Speaker:Traffic comes violence and corruption.
Speaker:The murder rate is among the highest in the world and the Honduran economy remains depressed.
Speaker:So.
Speaker:It is a depressing topic today.
Speaker:I could go into many of the other countries because Guatemala I'm blanking on the other ones, but there's a ton of like ones that lived through the same situation, which companies like Dole, they were known.
Speaker:I think, I think United fruit company became Dole.
Speaker:If I'm not mistaken, one of them did.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:That's basically a banana Republic.
Speaker:It's when a bunch of corporations or one corporation.
Speaker:Oh, The government and controls it from, from basically doing whatever the people want it to do.
Speaker:Fucking capitalism, man.
Speaker:Hell yeah.
Speaker:That's that's my, what would you call that communist speech for the day?
Speaker:So that is it for this episode.
Speaker:What did you guys think of the banana Republic?
Speaker:Was it everything you dreamed as well as your boxers?
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