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January 30, 2022
#29: Cyptozoology | Cryptids = Spooky Pokemon?

Sup Wikimaniacs?! It's yuh boy, Sean, back at it again. This time we're talking about everybody's favorite pseudoscience (or maybe not so pseudo science), Cryptozoology! Plus we take a slight break from erotic fan fiction...but we end with something equally as amazing/terrible! Consider being a Patron!The biggest benefit to you Wikimaniacs is that we have a combined https…


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptozoology

https://www.reddit.com/r/Cryptozoology/comments/nvghfb/found_in_a_walmart_parking_lot_zoom_in/

https://www.pfyshop.com/products/in-this-house-we-believe-bigfoot-is-real-yard-sign-reddit-bigfoot-yard-sign-for-sale-678

https://www.reddit.com/r/Cryptozoology/comments/nuiiby/north_america_cryptids_map/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Cryptozoology/comments/nws5ca/sometimes_its_the_obvious_answer_to_a_cryptids/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Cryptozoology/comments/o2qr68/a_quick_reference_of_major_cryptids_across_the/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Cryptozoology/comments/qldmg7/hold_up/

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Transcript
Sean:

Uh, the fuck is up with a maniac.

Sean:

See, it's your boy, Sean coming in hot with the intro music.

Sean:

No anxiety.

Sean:

It's 20, 22.

Sean:

I'm a pro now.

Sean:

Ah, just kidding.

Sean:

The music's done.

Sean:

Anxiety is back up.

Sean:

The sound of silence is a

Josh:

I'll start it back up.

Sean:

but uh, yeah, what's a wicked maniacs.

Sean:

Uh, it's your boy, Sean.

Sean:

I'm with John and Josh say what's up boys.

Josh:

What's up boys.

Sean:

Perfect.

Sean:

And, uh, you're you, you know what, you're listening to you click play.

Sean:

This is a, read it on Wiki.

Sean:

We learned something new every week.

Sean:

We use Reddit and work a pedia as our main sources of research.

Sean:

Uh, yeah.

Sean:

Uh, if you're listening to this, this is, uh, what is this?

Sean:

January 31st.

Josh:

Sure.

Sean:

I will have just had a very successful live show with shots

Sean:

on thoughts and a wicked maniacs.

Sean:

If you tuned into that, I hope you had a good time, uh, peek behind the screen

Sean:

that has not happened yet in real life.

Sean:

Uh, I do hope it goes well, uh, much anxiety will be there as

Sean:

well, but, uh, we'll get to that when we get to that anyways,

John:

To be fair.

John:

You're really confident when you were in shots and thoughts.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

You're

Sean:

true.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

I I'm, I, I, that I have full control over this.

Sean:

I don't know what's happening a lot of the times.

Sean:

It's, uh, I

Josh:

so the ones you host, you edit.

Sean:

I do edit.

Sean:

I do have control of the ones I have, but I mean, podcasts wise, I have to do

Sean:

zero research for shouts and thoughts.

Sean:

I mean, I borderline do zero research for Reddit.

Sean:

All Wiki, let's be honest, but

John:

You do research.

Sean:

I do research.

Sean:

I do research.

Sean:

I read before I read it on here, but, uh, I don't write anything, but, uh, I'll

Josh:

none of the spot.

Josh:

He doesn't read any of the smoke beforehand

Sean:

No, I

Josh:

the first line

Sean:

the smart and I'm like, this is an acceptable length and girth.

Sean:

So we will read this on the pod.

Josh:

and then we get halfway through and you're like, I didn't know it was going to

Sean:

And I was like, oh, this is the worst thing we've ever done.

John:

Apologies.

John:

We can maniacs.

Sean:

Uh, feverously apologizing in the middle of this.

Sean:

But, uh, yeah.

Sean:

Uh, you guys know what's up, it's your boy hosting this episode?

Sean:

Um, I already explained the show.

Sean:

I already said our name.

Sean:

So that means it's time to shout out the patrons, the people who pay our bills.

Sean:

You know what I'm saying?

Sean:

Shout out a real quick, John, shout them out real quick.

John:

we got vena.

John:

We got Lindsey,

Sean:

Ooh.

John:

we got Gabby.

John:

We got Aaron and we got Taru

Sean:

shout out to those five.

Sean:

Um, if you guys want to be shouted out as well on the podcast, uh,

Sean:

you can, uh, hop on the Patrion.

Sean:

We got a bunch of tears.

Sean:

Uh, I feel like it's pretty self-explanatory, but I do like

Sean:

explaining it because, uh, you know, just, it feels nice to say

Josh:

man mansplain it to me, Sean mansplain.

Sean:

I will say.

Sean:

Whatever mansplaining was a hot topic for a while.

Sean:

I was like, should I not explain anything ever?

Sean:

Like, I don't know how the what's the boundaries of.

Josh:

I think, I think there's definitely a, there's a definitely a line.

Josh:

You know what I mean?

Sean:

Don't talk over women for

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Don't talk down

Sean:

don't talk down to women for sure.

Sean:

But anytime I explain anything, I'm like, what if you already know this?

Sean:

And I am being an asshole and I don't even know.

Sean:

So I had much anxiety explaining anything.

Sean:

Uh,

Josh:

You just have anxiety

Sean:

uh, yeah.

Sean:

You know, I don't have much anxiety in life, uh, until I talk about it on here.

Sean:

And I'm like, actually I have lots of anxieties.

John:

Sean, is this a real life?

John:

Nick Miller.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

There's the everything is wrong.

Sean:

There is no right.

Josh:

there's a gray area for everything, Sean.

Josh:

You're you're fine.

Sean:

yeah, but a real quick breakdown, a Patrion, we got the $1

Sean:

tier that gets you access to our, oh, you were just doing the $1.

Sean:

I feel you, I thought you were saying like pause a $1 tier.

Sean:

Uh, so you get exclusive access to the Patrion exclusive discord.

Sean:

We have the $5 tier.

Sean:

You get all the kittens.

Sean:

Uh, from Reddit on Wiki, let's start a Colt bound.

Sean:

You get John's bonus kabba episodes and they're all a week early and ad free.

Sean:

Uh, you can get the $10 tier, which will give you a special shout outs

Sean:

on episodes of Reddit on Wiki.

Sean:

I will read anything that you write anything at all.

Sean:

And, uh, on top of that, you get bonus content from all of the other

Sean:

cultivate podcasts network shows like yield crime pineapple pizza podcast.

Sean:

Uh, we are distractions, shots and thoughts, all that good stuff.

Sean:

For $15, you get all of that.

Sean:

Plus you get the back catalog of shots and thoughts, because I think

Sean:

today on the dot, there will be no season one and season two on

Sean:

wherever you get your podcasts.

Sean:

Season one and season two will only be on the cultivate podcast network Patrion,

Josh:

Jay's going to be so disappointed.

Sean:

Jade caught up.

Sean:

Jade caught out, shout out to

John:

up.

Josh:

Holy

Sean:

caught up.

Sean:

She.

Josh:

she, she burned through so many

Sean:

burned through like 15 episodes.

Sean:

And like very quick time, she was tweeting at me again, Jade making

Sean:

my day when you tweet about it.

Sean:

But, uh, yeah, she, she fucking zoomed past it.

Sean:

I feel

Josh:

impressive.

Sean:

I feel like last week she was like, oh, I'm getting a hang of the new games.

Sean:

And then a few days later, oh, the finale, I was like, what?

Sean:

The, you are a beast.

Sean:

I it's awesome.

Sean:

Uh, shout out to Jade, but uh, yeah, $50 here.

Sean:

You get our whole back catalog.

John:

I was going to say, I was just talking to Jane earlier and

John:

I'm just like, man, I wish we had, I wish we can clone her as a fan.

John:

We had all our fans like that just, just live tweeting us on every

John:

episode that just warms my heart.

John:

I

Sean:

dude.

Sean:

It's so fun.

John:

feel like someone's actually listening.

John:

You know what I'm saying?

Sean:

I'm like, it's not just my, my wife and, uh,

John:

your wife listens to yourself.

John:

Yeah.

John:

My wife won't even listen to why shit

Josh:

Yeah, my girlfriend stopped too.

Sean:

After episode two, I don't blame either of your girls for not

Sean:

listening after the fucking Randy Orton, John Siena, cookie smut.

Sean:

Uh,

Josh:

fair.

John:

set the bar high.

Sean:

then on top of that to you, we have the $25 tier, which gets all

Sean:

of the stuff I already talked about.

Sean:

Plus twice a year, we're going to send you merge from any of our shows and, uh,

Sean:

yeah, that's the patriotic breakdown.

Sean:

That's down with the house cleaning.

Sean:

So without further edgy.

John:

It's called a house cleaning,

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

What, what, what do you see how how's keeping

Josh:

I mean, it's,

Sean:

it?

Sean:

Same,

John:

I guess, I

Sean:

same, same, but different.

Sean:

John's got to bust my balls on everything, man, house.

Josh:

going to say, I was going to say usually on the ball Buster

Josh:

John's out here cracking nuts.

Sean:

I feel, I feel like we're, we're like a starter Pokemon.

Sean:

You know what I'm saying?

Sean:

One of us always bought bus another person's Paul's.

John:

that's true.

John:

I got dibs on fire type.

Josh:

Oh, that's why you bust me for not being spicy enough.

Josh:

I'm the grass

Sean:

Yeah,

Josh:

or I'm the water?

Josh:

I don't know which one water's cooler.

Josh:

Like Squirtle.

John:

Now you like to squirt,

Sean:

Jesus Christ.

Josh:

Oh, well, there's a spot

John:

yeah, we got to have something.

Sean:

All right, boys.

Sean:

Uh, before we get into the episode's topic,

Sean:

what have you guys been up to?

Sean:

You has been two weeks since we've seen each other and seeing each

Sean:

other, I mean, virtually again, wicked maniacs never met in person.

Sean:

I was in Johnstown.

Sean:

Uh, uh, we missed each other, but, uh, yeah.

Sean:

What have you guys been doing?

Josh:

Did you just go on vacation, John?

John:

did.

John:

I actually just got back from Las Vegas

John:

and

John:

Arizona.

John:

Uh that's.

John:

That was for, or purposes anyways, uh, Las Vegas, we went

John:

there, uh, just to hang out.

John:

Um, we kinda did more of the outdoor stuff because I do not like Vegas, particularly.

John:

I'm not, I'm not much of a night life type of person, so that

John:

doesn't appeal to me as much.

John:

So we went and saw like red rock canyon and just a bunch of like

John:

different outdoor, um, stuff like outside the city of the strip.

John:

Um, and then afterwards, we went on this really, really nice, beautiful tour.

John:

Um, at the grand canyon we want on the, um, the west grand canyon side,

John:

we did the, um, it's called a sky bridge, which is pretty much a clear.

John:

Path over, over, over the grand canyon.

John:

Uh, of course we did the typical, like touristy pig.

John:

I laid down face first, so I felt like I was flying.

John:

Uh, I D I just, tinkled just a little bit, cause I'm scared of Heights, but I went

Sean:

Uh

Sean:

husband to say,

John:

Yeah.

John:

Uh, yeah, I'm scared of, I'm deadly scared of Heights, but I still did

Josh:

Um, I'm right there with

Sean:

I

Josh:

not a fan.

Sean:

I was in New York and there's a building, uh, like, you know, one of

Sean:

the, you know, top of the rock or forget what the fuck this one was called.

Sean:

Like maybe sky's age or some, some shit like that, where they have a clear thing.

Sean:

And it's just the streets of New York below you.

Sean:

Fuck.

Sean:

No, was looking over the edge.

Sean:

I didn't step on the clear plastic or glass or whatever it was.

Sean:

I was like, I do that,

John:

Chicago is like that with Sears tower.

John:

Like you

Sean:

the sky

John:

site and you're like leaning on that bitch.

Josh:

yeah.

Josh:

See, and Terry, I think you can do the same thing where you're like outside,

John:

Yeah.

Josh:

uh, on like a harness or something.

Josh:

I've never been up the CN tower.

Josh:

I'm definitely

Josh:

afraid

Sean:

outside.

Josh:

Yeah, I think so.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

You're outside on the CN tower.

John:

Oh shit.

Sean:

And you're hanging there.

Sean:

You have to put a harness on

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Uh

Josh:

outside walk

John:

no no no

Josh:

called the edge walk.

Josh:

Uh, yeah, I'll share my screen.

Josh:

Not that anyone else can see it, but

Sean:

Great for the podcast

Sean:

listeners

Josh:

But yeah, you get getting these like red jumpsuits and you hang over the edge.

Josh:

Uh,

Sean:

Oh fuck

John:

Oh no.

Josh:

yeah.

Sean:

don't even

Sean:

I don't even do roller coasters that aren't like

Sean:

Disney

John:

damn.

John:

Ain't that?

John:

Motherfucking

Sean:

Wait, yo that's fucking

John:

Drake?

John:

Yeah.

John:

That's the views views album,

John:

man

Josh:

yeah.

Josh:

yeah.

Josh:

He did.

Josh:

Let's where they got the picture

John:

oh shit.

John:

Okay

Sean:

jumpsuit.

Sean:

Drake's Wilder.

Sean:

It's probably

John:

Brittany.

Josh:

I'm sure they Photoshop

Josh:

Yeah

Sean:

Photoshop

Sean:

As soon as I said it, I was like,

Sean:

yeah, your Photoshop

John:

yeah it was pretty dope.

John:

Uh, and then we did go to, um, there's this place called Eagle

John:

point that we got to go to, it actually looked like an Eagle.

John:

And then, uh, we went to this part.

John:

I want it to go to horseshoe bend, but it was on the other side.

John:

So we went to this place called guano point.

John:

I was pretty much a cave full of bat shit.

John:

And like literally it's bat shit.

John:

Uh, they use it for like

Josh:

Don't you know how COVID started.

John:

So that was probably the origins of it.

John:

And then, uh, me and my wife like went to this kind of hike above

John:

guano point where it overlooks 360 degree view of the grand canyon.

John:

And it's, it's amazing, man.

John:

It's it looks so fake, but, uh, yeah, just, just, you know, blessed for

John:

the opportunity, like to see a few of the, the wonders of the world,

John:

whether it's natural or manmade.

John:

And, uh, my bucket list is to complete all that.

John:

So, um, five down, many times.

Josh:

Wait, wait, can you name some of the other name, a couple other ones

Josh:

you

Josh:

want to go.

John:

I, I definitely want to go to Petra in Jordan.

John:

I definitely want to see the, um, I think it was Rio de Janeiro, the big

John:

Jesus, not a I'm not a religious but, um, definitely wanna see Acropolis.

John:

Um, I want to see, and I think, uh, Sean, after, after hours, I think you

John:

mentioned like, uh, Ryan is going to Machu Picchu and that's a mine as well.

Josh:

That's cool.

John:

uh, yeah, man, there's so much, there's so much places that I want to

John:

visit and hopefully I don't die before.

John:

It's an actually make make it work.

Sean:

I just saw a, tic-tac speaking about Machu Picchu

Sean:

some day did like around trip.

Sean:

I don't know where he's at originally, but he did a round trip

Sean:

to Peru and it was like 380 bucks.

Josh:

Damn

Sean:

And that yeah.

Sean:

Round trip.

Sean:

I think he did.

Sean:

I think he said it was so cheap that that 380 bucks included like food and stay.

Sean:

He stayed at like hostels and shit super cheap,

Sean:

but

Sean:

but he was like, yeah, every like IHG food and stayed at a cheap hostel, but

Sean:

like three 80 bucks for international trip is that's pretty unbeatable.

Josh:

Well, it's probably like I would, I was going to say the

Josh:

currency there, American dollars are probably worth way more.

Josh:

Right So it'd

Josh:

be cheaper that way as well.

Josh:

Um, just like visiting Canada.

Sean:

Yeah, Third world country, Canada.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Hey, we were first on the best place to live,

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

I don't doubt you I'm talking shit, but

John:

Yeah I'm

Josh:

issues with that list, but

John:

Um, big couldn't couldn't couldn't be but yeah, man, I'm

John:

pronounced pretty much it like, you know, I, um, just loved opportunity

John:

to travel and I actually got to spend time with my, with my in-laws too.

John:

So that was pretty dope.

John:

I get along with them really well.

John:

So it w it was pretty awesome.

John:

It was just a nice relaxing trip.

John:

And I think I mentioned last episode, um, it felt, I felt really guilty because

John:

I'm usually, I guess I'm a workaholic.

John:

Uh I'm.

Josh:

No, you don't

Sean:

you

Sean:

mentioned this in a future episode.

John:

Oh, future episode.

John:

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

John:

But I I'm, I'm, I'm quite, uh, quite a bit of a workaholic.

John:

I am usually awake wee hours of the morning and awake, like wee hours of

John:

the night, so I don't sleep, but I,

Sean:

You're trying to change that this year though,

Sean:

right

John:

yeah, I, I sleep way more now I I take afternoon naps at times.

Sean:

hell yeah.

John:

I'll be turning my shit off, like

Josh:

I do afternoon naps all the

John:

yeah.

John:

Pass a certain cutoff time.

John:

Like I ain't doing shit.

Josh:

Nice.

Josh:

That's awesome.

Josh:

That sounds like a good trip.

Josh:

I'm very jealous obviously.

John:

you can't go

John:

anywhere

Josh:

no,

Sean:

rubbing it in my

Sean:

God

John:

and you're cold as fuck.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

What to do is get like a one, uh, get like an Oculus and then go on

Sean:

your treadmill and you're, you're a

John:

Oh, genius.

Josh:

like I'm.

Josh:

Yeah, I just, right now I just have a TV in front of me, so

Josh:

it's

John:

I would use Oculus for all the wrong reasons.

John:

Let me just

Sean:

Oh no.

Josh:

oh God,

John:

five times a day might

John:

get be it

Sean:

make

Josh:

time world

Sean:

I'm

Sean:

I'm the tainted one here, but truly I just got stuck with this muck.

Sean:

Uh,

Sean:

what the fuck is

Sean:

smut smut gimmick.

Sean:

I was trying to gimmick and smut schmuck smart

Josh:

Uh, uh, I do have, um, so we've, we've kind of talked about it.

Josh:

Like I moved to this apartment, um, uh, back in like October or

Josh:

whatever, and, uh, like how it works is there's, uh, two apartments

Josh:

that, like, it's not an apartment.

Josh:

It's like a, we have our own entrance.

Sean:

like a duplex.

Josh:

Yeah, I kind of like that, but there's like people above us.

Josh:

So we have like the main floor and then the basement and then they

Josh:

have two floors and then there's another, uh, it's like split anyway.

Josh:

It's hard to it's complicated anyway.

Josh:

There's there's uh, so for the longest time, there was no neighbors above

Josh:

us because they'd just been built and they hadn't sold them yet, I guess.

Josh:

And, uh, I guess it must be like January, like the beginning of January, someone

Josh:

moved in to the place right above us.

Josh:

And they are the loudest

Josh:

goddamn people I

Josh:

swear to

John:

my

John:

neighbors from hell.

Josh:

yeah, they have a, I think it's like a child.

Josh:

They have a child of some sort.

Josh:

I've never seen it, but I can

Josh:

hear it

Josh:

I don't know what, like gender, um,

Sean:

say

Sean:

them, them,

John:

Made

Josh:

them, it's the same thing.

John:

you know

Sean:

it

Sean:

sounds much worse

Sean:

than that

Josh:

Uh, kids or sometimes, um, so, uh, uh, the, they live like, so the

Josh:

kids' room is right above my office and it's either there or the kids.

Josh:

I say, keep saying it, the kids are either not old enough to go

Josh:

to school or is homeschooled.

Josh:

I'm not sure because they're always home and they just stop all the time.

Josh:

Like it's a kids stopping, but that's not the worst day I could live with that.

Josh:

You know, during the day it's fine.

Josh:

Whatever.

Josh:

I throw my headphones on, I listen to a podcast or music or a book

Josh:

why it's not, not a big deal.

Josh:

Um, it's not until 10 30 at night.

Josh:

We're lying down.

Josh:

Cause my girlfriend, teachers, she has to get up, go to school early in the morning.

Josh:

We're lying down in bed.

Josh:

10 30.

Josh:

And it is just like, that's when they wake up and their living

Josh:

room must be right above us.

Josh:

And she just does she, or he, whatever the kid is just as

Josh:

the lapse of the living room.

Josh:

And it's like, what the fuck is going on up there until 11 30, 11 30 every night.

John:

beat the I

Josh:

do you put your kid to bed?

Sean:

you don't, you don't fucking have you gotten the broom and done the fucking,

Josh:

I banged on the walls.

Josh:

I don't know they don't know if they hear it.

Josh:

Uh, we're going to write them a note.

Josh:

Uh, cause it's just, it's unbearable.

Josh:

Like I like it cause we're not going to sleep until like 1130 midnight and uh,

Josh:

yeah, I get cranky when I don't sleep.

John:

Oh, my

Josh:

Uh, so that has been, uh, especially when this is like, I can't go anywhere.

Josh:

So I'm here all the time.

Josh:

It's uh, definitely drives you a little nuts.

Josh:

Um, so that's so you got to go on a trip.

Josh:

I got.

John:

Do you

Josh:

I

Josh:

lose my mind.

John:

deal with it?

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Basically.

Josh:

Um, and so how it works do is like there's a split in our apartment above us.

Josh:

So like the one neighbor lives on the one side and the other labor lives on the

Josh:

other side, never hear the other neighbor.

Josh:

They're the quietest people in the And it's so nice, but they're there above our

Josh:

living room, which is super inconvenient because we're not there at midnight.

Josh:

So, but yeah.

Josh:

So that's my update.

Sean:

whenever I lived in an apartment, I think I was always top floor.

Sean:

So I've never had to deal with, uh, uh, knowing people above me.

Josh:

I

Josh:

have, this might be the first time I've lived underneath people.

Josh:

It's eyeopening for sure.

Sean:

I always wonder like, am I the loud?

John:

First time.

John:

Josh a bottom

Sean:

Am I the problem?

Sean:

Oh

Josh:

And I hate

Josh:

it

Josh:

I ain't no bottom bitch.

John:

top, always, baby.

Josh:

Uh,

Sean:

all right.

Sean:

Well, now that we know what we've been up to, uh, we'll hop into this week's

Sean:

episode 20 minutes in, whoops, sorry.

Sean:

Uh, so I've, I picked this topic because you know, we're part of the cultivate

Sean:

family and, uh, you know, ever since we.

Sean:

Sign podcast onto the network.

Sean:

I listened to all the podcasts.

Sean:

You know what I'm saying?

Sean:

Cultivate gang sign eight, eight, but, uh, yeah, I started listening

Sean:

to all the podcasts on the, um, you know, I've mentioned this before,

Sean:

but I'm not the best at listening to the indie podcasts thing.

Sean:

Cause I didn't start podcasting until I had already had like a set

Sean:

amount of shows I was listening to.

Sean:

So now that we podcasts signed to cultivate, now I'm

Josh:

I'm the same way.

Josh:

I'm the same way.

Josh:

Like you call me at all the time for not listening to shots.

Josh:

And

Sean:

oh,

Sean:

it's

Josh:

I, I, listened here and there.

Josh:

Um, but I just have, like, my set shows that like, even before, like there are

Josh:

some, some podcasts, like the network, I have been listening to a lot more.

Josh:

Um, but man, I have like my set five podcasts that release Monday,

Josh:

Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

Josh:

And that's my, that's my

Josh:

my out

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

And so, uh, I, I feel you, you're not alone in that, but I

Josh:

do like to try and branch out.

Sean:

yeah, I've, I've been ever since we signed the shows onto the network and

Sean:

cultivators official official, I've been listening to everybody's shows every week

Sean:

and it helps that fantasy football's over.

Sean:

Cause the shout out fantasy footballers, but they used to do every single,

Sean:

like Monday through Friday and episode an hour long episode, but

Sean:

they get like, that's their job.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Yeah That's

Sean:

Like they fucking, they started there.

Sean:

They like have employees, like they're fucking doing it,

Josh:

if we've got enough Patriots, we'll do a daily to fuck

Josh:

it

Sean:

They,

John:

Who that?

John:

I agree with that bitch.

Sean:

Dude, the fantasy football or this is just like, you know, shout out

Sean:

to one of my favorite podcasts, but like they're fucking humongous goals.

Sean:

Cause.

Sean:

I think they just started like recording in their bedroom and they did it

Sean:

for their fantasy football league.

Sean:

And then they released it out to the public.

Sean:

It got popular, they got big enough to where they could hire people.

Sean:

And they bought out like have an office building for all their employees.

Sean:

And then they had so much than that.

Sean:

They have so much, uh, shit going on with the fantasy football or stuff that

Sean:

they branched out and made a comedy only no football podcast, since they

Sean:

have time, since they have other people doing their research and shit, I'm just

Sean:

like

John:

out.

Sean:

time

Sean:

Podcasting,

John:

Bias out, please.

Josh:

The issue is we could never have an office.

Josh:

It would wouldn't work.

Josh:

It'd be we do it in the middle of somewhere.

Josh:

Like, what do we do in Chicago or

John:

have to move to like New York or some

Josh:

We fly there.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

New York wouldn't be that far.

Josh:

new York's only

Josh:

like

John:

once a month, episode bachelor court for like 12 hours straight,

Sean:

And

Sean:

shit.

Josh:

same room

John:

same

Josh:

12 hours.

Josh:

Oh

Sean:

But yeah, I've been listening to all the cultivates shows recently.

Sean:

And, uh, I was listening to a pineapple when I first started

Sean:

listening to pineapple pizza pot, uh, like a month or two ago, they,

Sean:

they talk about cryptozoology a lot.

Sean:

And I was like, what the fuck is that?

Sean:

Like, what is that?

Sean:

Like, I know urban legends.

Sean:

I know the other stuff they talk about, but what is cryptozoology?

Sean:

So I found out through listening to what it was, but, uh, I thought I'd

Sean:

share with the wicked maniacs for the other people that are ignorant

Sean:

to the science, pseudoscience, whatever, uh, of cryptozoology.

Sean:

So, John, Josh, what is your experience with cryptozoology?

Sean:

What do you guys know about it?

Josh:

You want me to take it away?

Josh:

Sorry

Josh:

Uh, I think it's like, I feel dragons fall under it.

Josh:

Like it's like creatures that probably don't exist, but are

Josh:

treated like they exist maybe.

Josh:

Is that kind of what it is?

Sean:

Close close at.

Sean:

I mean, essentially I think that's, that's what it is from

Sean:

my, my short research and from

Josh:

And that's the episode that.

Sean:

case solved, actually.

Sean:

So, you know, Patrion again, $25, $25, $25, John, would he know about,

Sean:

uh cryptids and cryptozoology?

John:

Well, cryptids are more of like the, the legendary type of, of creatures.

John:

Not necessarily like pertaining to the, it kind of pertains to some

John:

paranormal aspect, but not really.

John:

They're more of like, Like a monster, like you got your big floods, your lock

John:

neces, and they're more of like a folk

John:

lore

John:

or dragons.

Josh:

fall under that.

John:

mean, Lochness monster is kinda dragon

Josh:

true

Josh:

I feel dragons are just like the, like, like trying Chinese cryptids right.

Josh:

Like that's kind of what the right.

Josh:

Maybe they're like

John:

they're legends, legends.

John:

So that thing, I think that falls under a cryptozoology.

John:

So I guess it's this pseudo science of, of mythical beasts.

Sean:

Pretty much.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

That's, uh, that's pretty much what it is.

Sean:

Uh, as with all my episodes, I'm going to start with Wiki.

Sean:

We're going to go to a break and then we'll do some Reddit shit.

Sean:

But, uh, yeah, w let's read, uh, the, the Wikipedia, some Reddit sheet.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

So cryptozoology is the pseudoscience and subculture that searches and

Sean:

studies for unknown, legendary, or extinct animals whose present existence

Sean:

is disputed or unsubstantiated

Josh:

like the clutter

Josh:

is

Sean:

Corolla.

Sean:

Holy

John:

The magical bean.

Sean:

sounds like a you problem.

Sean:

Josh

John:

Oh, shots fired.

Sean:

task.

Sean:

Kidding.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

He has, he bought an apartment and he has land with this woman.

Sean:

I'm sure Josh knows.

Sean:

Best out to Josh.

Sean:

You know what I'm saying?

Sean:

I fist out to

Sean:

Josh

John:

don't use that on the clutter as please.

Sean:

Yeah,

Josh:

don't use the fist.

Josh:

Oh

John:

don't do that.

Josh:

I go, got to go back to the drawing board then.

Sean:

Jesus Christ.

Sean:

Okay.

Sean:

So particularly the popular are those popular in full Clore, such

Sean:

as big foot, the Lochness monster, Yeti, the trooper Cobre, the

Sean:

Jersey devil and, or the Ben bay.

Sean:

Uh, but yeah, as cryptozoologist refer to these entities, as cryptids a term

Sean:

coined by the subculture, because it does not follow the scientific

Sean:

method, cryptozoology is considered a pseudoscience by mainstream science.

Sean:

It is neither a branch of zoology nor folklore studies.

Sean:

It was originally founded in the 1950s by zoologists.

Sean:

and Ivan T Sanderson

John:

It's not

Josh:

That's the fucking heard.

Sean:

It sounded Spanish like eggs, and then it got German.

Sean:

I don't

Sean:

know

John:

Bernard Webelos.

Josh:

It's not There's only three.

Josh:

There's only three German

John:

That's true.

Sean:

uh

Sean:

August

Josh:

off

Josh:

Wow.

Josh:

I forget what the

John:

Christophe.

John:

It was Christophe.

Sean:

Kristoff,

Sean:

or Josh

Sean:

Josh.

Sean:

is a popular one

Josh:

is That journey?

John:

us my

John:

guy

Josh:

My last name is Jared.

Josh:

I don't know if Josh has

Sean:

shell.

Josh:

it's like biblical

Sean:

is bill cholesterol.

Josh:

Yeah.

John:

shackles, shackles, nickels.

Sean:

Jesus

John:

come from.

Josh:

don't know what you just said,

John:

don't know either.

Josh:

you just cursed in German.

Sean:

Everyone is very offended.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

All the Germans What the fuck?

Sean:

If that, if that is the singular thing that, that made the Germans

Sean:

mad from our podcast, that is,

John:

problematic.

John:

It's also weird

Sean:

it's weird

Josh:

talk the Nazis every day,

Josh:

but

John:

counter.

John:

Oh, shout, hold on.

John:

Shopping.

John:

Let's do fucking.

John:

She's actually counting every single time we say Nazis on the show

Josh:

I think we broke it though.

Josh:

Didn't we?

John:

all last episode.

John:

Oh,

Josh:

don't know if we

John:

we're going to break it into the future.

Josh:

the last episode of the next step is.

John:

The next episode,

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

The next step

Josh:

is the

John:

to go.

John:

just going

John:

to go

John:

I'm just going to go in there and pre record something Nazis.

Josh:

just scream it into the microphone at the beginning.

Sean:

just do a, put it in the, uh, what is it?

Sean:

Our disclaimer in the beginning, just a whispered Nazi

Sean:

somewhere that just constantly

Sean:

Nazis Nazis Nazis

Josh:

This podcast talks about Nazis

Sean:

There it

Sean:

is

Josh:

and that's how we don't get it monetized on YouTube ever.

Sean:

Fantastic.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

So the terminology history and approach of cryptozoology go

Sean:

through a brief history of this.

Sean:

as a field cryptozoology originates from the works of Bernard, a

Sean:

Belgian zoologists and Ivan T Sanderson, a Scottish theologists.

Sean:

published on the track of unknown animals, which is a land landmark work

Sean:

among cryptozoologist that was followed by numerous other similar works.

Sean:

Sanderson released a series of books that were pretty similar,

Sean:

including the abominable snowman, uh, legend come to life.

Sean:

So essentially, they started all that in the 1950s to the

Sean:

1960s, and then they termed, the crypto cryptozoologist JE wall.

Sean:

Coined the term crypted in 1983 in the summer issue of the international society

Sean:

of cryptozoology newsletter essentially Wal said, it suggests that new terms,

Sean:

Bitcoin to replace sensational and often misleading terms like monster.

Sean:

My suggestion is cryptid meaning a living thing, having the quality of

Sean:

being hidden or unknown describing those creatures, which are, or may be

Sean:

subjects of cryptozoology investigation.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

So,

Josh:

When, when was this again?

Josh:

Sorry.

Sean:

Cryptid that, that newsletter and that term was coined in 1983.

Josh:

Okay.

Josh:

Okay.

Josh:

So, well, after I would have expected, I was like, oh, this is like 1,817 hundreds.

Josh:

They, they know, like they don't have satellites or anything like that.

Josh:

Oh, no, they,

John:

people as witches back.

Sean:

everyone's just a wish back then.

John:

Yeah,

Josh:

yeah.

Josh:

Just sounds like white people with too much time on their not going to lie.

Sean:

Belgians in a, just a European, I wonder where JE wall is from.

Sean:

But, uh, even though he coined the term crypted, he is not popular

Sean:

enough to have his own Wikipedia page.

Sean:

So that's a socket, Jay.

Sean:

So

Josh:

ass now.

John:

Yeah

Sean:

I hope he's still alive.

Sean:

83 is not that long ago.

Josh:

Oh, you guessed though.

Sean:

so, while biologists regularly identify new species,

Sean:

cryptozoologist often feature on creatures from folklore record.

Sean:

Most famously.

Sean:

These include the Lochness monster Bigfoot, the Chupacabra, as well as

Sean:

other quote in posing beasts that could be labeled as monsters and quote.

Sean:

So, and their search for these entities cryptozoologist may employ devices.

Sean:

Motion sensitive cameras, night, vision equipment, audio recording,

Sean:

and audio recording equipment.

Sean:

Um, I noticed on the Reddit, uh, on the cryptozoology sub Reddit,

Sean:

a lot of people complained that all videos of cryptids are, uh,

Sean:

shot with potatoes or they they're

Sean:

they're fucking

Sean:

yeah, they're fucking running around or zooming in and out.

Sean:

And it's, it's never solid.

Sean:

And, uh, in a day of age where everybody has a 4k camera on their phone,

John:

must, must be

Josh:

has ticked doc.

Josh:

Everyone has ticked

Sean:

tick-tock it's

Josh:

how to use a cam camera?

Sean:

exactly.

Sean:

Uh, are we, are we far away enough from Spider-Man far from home or

Sean:

no, no way home to talk about it.

John:

to be fair.

Josh:

Yes.

John:

I've

John:

I've never even watched the first.

Sean:

John.

Sean:

You're not, you're not ever going to watch So it doesn't fucking matter I

John:

yeah,

John:

go

Sean:

wicked maniacs, just a quick, maybe three minutes, but maybe even one minute,

John:

Well, you haven't spoiled it for shots and thoughts yet.

Sean:

they won't let me, I just got go-ahead from Josh.

John:

I don't want to get, I don't want to get counseled for that.

Sean:

Okay.

Sean:

Well, I'm telling you to skip ahead a few

Josh:

skip ahead a couple of minutes.

Josh:

If you don't want to hear

Sean:

This is going to be very quick at literally seconds,

Sean:

but

Sean:

in in the movie they fucking, uh, the guys that come from the other

Sean:

universes are being found out through tick-tock and social media.

Sean:

So day and age where it's so easy to film something on your phone, you would think

Sean:

cryptids would be pretty easy to catch.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

And we have like satellite imagery of the entire earth.

Josh:

Like you're, you're telling me they haven't found anything yet.

John:

to be, to be fair, most fight videos on Worldstar are as the same.

Sean:

But also Worldstar was when fucking potatoes were cameras.

Sean:

You know what I mean?

Sean:

Like world

Josh:

He word

Josh:

is Worldstar popular.

Sean:

Now there's no way it's still

Josh:

I don't think

John:

But, I mean, I guess

Sean:

That was 2014, I guess.

Sean:

I guess cameras weren't still, I don't know, but,

Josh:

they were, they were definitely worse, but.

Sean:

yeah, they were definitely worse than now, but we have poor K cameras.

Sean:

I mean, maybe the service isn't great where you're finding the

Sean:

cryptids, you know what I'm saying?

Sean:

But

John:

that show in your drafts.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

That's what I'm saying.

Sean:

I feel, yeah.

Sean:

I feel like it's, you should be able to find a way,

Josh:

Yeah, I agree.

Sean:

but, uh, back on Wikipedia, while there have been attempts

Sean:

to codify crypto zoo zoological approaches, unlike biologists,

Sean:

zoologists, botanists, and other academic disciplines, however, quote.

Josh:

Botanist's

Sean:

are

Sean:

botanists botanists.

John:

There you go.

John:

I didn't say it.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

I, I had to do

Sean:

I, appreciate it.

Sean:

You know what I'm saying?

Sean:

Good to know.

Sean:

Y'all uh, y'all have a, y'all better have my back.

Sean:

You know what I

John:

Well, I was going to leave it alone, but

Sean:

leaves it alone.

Sean:

A quote, there are no accepted uniform or successful methods

Sean:

for pursuing cryptids and quote.

Sean:

Some scholars have identified precursors to modern cryptozoology

Sean:

and certain medieval approaches to the folklore record.

Sean:

And the psychology behind cryptozoology approach has been

Sean:

a subject of academic study.

Sean:

Uh, essentially the rest of this is just explaining that a real scientists really

Sean:

want nothing to do with cryptozoology.

Sean:

Uh, And I think it's the rest of the Wikipedia pages essentially saying, oh,

Sean:

it's fun to talk about, but let's, let's not really fucking believe this stuff is,

Josh:

fair

Sean:

the vibes that Wikipedia is giving.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

So, that's Wikipedia the Crip to cryptozoology page on Wikipedia.

Sean:

That's what I mean, it sounds like we're all on page.

Sean:

Nope.

Sean:

It sounds like we're all on the same page of this being, uh, just fun stuff,

Sean:

but a truly the people that dedicate

Josh:

Uh, well, I know John is more into the paranormal and cryptids and stuff.

Josh:

What do you,

Josh:

what do you think

Sean:

Josh and I are just skeptic.

John:

I believe in that bitch.

John:

Okay.

John:

Wholeheartedly.

John:

There's no

Josh:

fallen into that ant hill or whatever

John:

What's that?

John:

Yeah.

Sean:

Wait, which one?

John:

The story where I kicked the fucking ad hill and I got haunted pretty much.

Sean:

Oh,

John:

Yeah, dude.

John:

Like I hope to me there's so much things that can like, can't be

John:

explained no matter how much technology.

John:

You're telling me that there might be some creatures in a fucking Mariana

John:

trench right now that could like literally devour us for all I care.

John:

Megalodon too,

Sean:

Deep, deep sea.

Sean:

I'm all about, you know what I'm saying?

Sean:

Like that shit could exist.

Sean:

Big foot.

Sean:

We would've, we would've seen that guy.

John:

there's like lush forests.

John:

Like you should know Canada, like north of Canada there, and shit.

John:

There, there, it's probably a hard to fucking find things.

Josh:

There's a lot of bears, which could be confused as something else.

Josh:

know, that's what I, that's what I lean towards.

Josh:

I lean towards, uh, you know, a lot of people are dumb.

Josh:

You're saying I, as one of them as one of them.

Josh:

And, uh, if I saw something into the corner of my eye and I was

Josh:

like, I don't know, back in the early 19 hundreds, I'd be like, that

Josh:

looked like a, uh, furry person.

Josh:

Um,

Sean:

I w I will say though, it is interesting that there are big foots

Sean:

of all, like in all cultures, everybody kind of has, big foot, but then again,

Josh:

bears in every call, like in every like there's Asian bears, you

Josh:

know, there's, there's, there's north American bears, you know, there's.

Sean:

you have a bears.

Sean:

Don't have big feet.

Sean:

My guy I'm talking

Josh:

Well, I don't know that could have evolved that if something

Josh:

else, you know what I mean?

Josh:

Like you see a furry thing, maybe you start telling tales and you know,

Josh:

bears feet are pretty big too, way.

Josh:

Cause like grizzly bears are fucking

Sean:

but they're not like they're round and you know,

Sean:

they're not like shaped, like a,

Josh:

but if you see something in the grass, you're not seeing its

Josh:

feet, you're seeing the body, right?

Sean:

yeah, it's true.

Sean:

Truly.

Sean:

I'm still a skeptic, but I'm, I'm trying to open it up for the people that believe,

Sean:

know what I say

Josh:

I got

Josh:

ya

John:

I'm a believer

John:

is

Sean:

look, I just had, I just had the fucking, uh, called out for thinking the

Sean:

Denver airport is the Illuminati Homebase.

Sean:

So I'm the last one to judge anybody on believing of cryptids exist or not?

Josh:

No.

Josh:

And you know what?

Josh:

I

Josh:

agree

Sean:

specifically deep sea ones, just because they're deep sea.

John:

All I'm saying that there's somewhere out there in the Appalachians

John:

or whatever it lowers our roams around.

John:

There's a thick ass king of a, of a cryptid named moth man

John:

flying around with his big booty.

Sean:

bro, we're going to get into this when we get into

Sean:

the second half with Reddit.

Sean:

But yeah, there's, there's borderline too much mouth man content

John:

as lust man, Dick king

Sean:

I didn't, I typed in, I was trying to find the top post for cryptozoology

Sean:

and half of it is fucking mouth man.

Sean:

Shit.

Sean:

They fucking love mop.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

I'll, I'll say this though.

Josh:

As far as like pseudoscience goes, this is like the most harmless one.

Sean:

This is the most fun

Josh:

So yeah.

Sean:

this is much better than fucking horse medicine and your veins, uh,

Josh:

our skull pseudoscience tell how smart or dumb people

Josh:

are based on their skills.

Sean:

or flat earth side pseudoscience.

Sean:

yeah.

Josh:

So it is less harmful and it is fun.

Josh:

Like it's good stories at the bare minimum, is like, it's fun.

Josh:

It's fun to listen to the stories and, and speculate.

Josh:

So I'm all in on that part.

Josh:

I don't necessarily believe it though.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

Shout out to a pineapple pizza pod.

Sean:

They had a cryptid episode where they talked about something called a not deer.

Sean:

And I was fucking dying of laughter.

Sean:

Just thinking of this thing.

Sean:

Being existence is a deer with human hands, I think.

Josh:

oh

Sean:

yeah, it has human hands.

Sean:

I listened to it when it came out.

Sean:

So forgive me if I'm wrong, but do they say human teeth on the nod?

Sean:

Dear?

John:

I didn't it was a cumin, like

John:

features

Sean:

a human like deer essentially.

Sean:

And I, I can't get the picture of, uh, uh, just a deal with human hands, dude.

Sean:

It's fucking disgusting to think about

John:

throw

Josh:

what.

Josh:

was the, what was the Philip, uh, the Philippines, uh, one talked about an ass

Sean:

white lady.

Josh:

No, no.

Josh:

I was thinking about the, the center

John:

Oh

Sean:

Oh,

Sean:

yeah.

Josh:

the backward center.

John:

yeah, no motherfuckers are real to shit.

Josh:

well, they're going to be hunting me down because I just

Josh:

called them backwards center.

Sean:

now they gotta be looking in the mirror being like,

Sean:

well, I do be faxed though.

Josh:

It's fair.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

I'll rip up.

Josh:

I'll rip up clothing to piss them off or whatever it is I had to do.

Sean:

Right?

John:

to wear shirt inside out.

John:

That's what

John:

gotta do

Josh:

I

Josh:

it had to clothing.

Josh:

I'll just be ripping clothes.

Josh:

They'll be like, well, I don't go.

Josh:

Fuck.

John:

Turn out inside out though.

John:

It's not the tag.

John:

Oh, fuck.

Josh:

Hell.

Josh:

I worked from home.

Josh:

Sometimes I wear stuff inside It doesn't matter.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

Well, that's it for this half.

Sean:

Uh, we'll hit a quick ad break and then we'll be right back and we're back.

Sean:

What's up guys.

Sean:

We are back with it.

Sean:

It's a time to get into the Reddit section of Reddit on Wiki.

Sean:

Uh, have I found some quick, um, just quick things I found on

Sean:

Reddit, I want to get past these and then I want to play a game.

Sean:

So

Josh:

Ooh

Sean:

through these.

Sean:

Yeah, I'm doing a game instead of smut because, uh, you guys,

Sean:

uh, the Twitter voters said this mud is not what they're here for.

Sean:

So I'll take you out word value until you complain and shout to the rooftops.

Sean:

But.

Sean:

On the cryptozoology sub Reddit from user raging, ex Marla said,

Sean:

uh, they said, I found this in a park, a Walmart parking lot.

Sean:

And then it's a, a bumper sticker.

Sean:

It says moth man is real.

Sean:

And then underneath and tiny text, it says, I know because we made out

Sean:

and he is a gentle and caring lover,

John:

oh my God.

Sean:

the

Josh:

like a Walmart license plate.

Sean:

oh

Josh:

If like, if you were to find it anywhere, definitely be there.

Sean:

makes sense.

Sean:

Makes Okay.

Sean:

So this was from, uh, this was the top comment, uh, from hum Bob,

Sean:

um, Bob, we kind of similar to what Josh was trying to say last

Josh:

Matata.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

How bimbo way, uh, they posted this Herman reminds me of a

Sean:

Bigfoot sign I saw recently.

Sean:

And then the sign is.

Sean:

In this house we believe big foot is real.

Sean:

I am going to kiss him.

Sean:

He will be my lover.

Sean:

I will be the little spoon, me and Bigfoot.

Sean:

We'll fuck.

Sean:

And you can't stop us.

John:

oh my God.

Sean:

That is uh, a yard sign, uh, for 39 99.

Sean:

I don't know who would buy that.

Sean:

I don't know.

Sean:

Who's HOA would allow that.

Sean:

Uh,

Sean:

but this

Sean:

is a real product.

Sean:

It does exist.

Sean:

And, uh, yeah,

Josh:

my

Josh:

God

John:

fucking, oh my

Josh:

Maybe I'll set it up.

Josh:

So my upstairs neighbor can see it.

John:

There you go.

John:

Hey kid.

John:

Look at

Josh:

oh God

Josh:

don't stop stopping.

Josh:

He's crazy.

Josh:

your big foot.

Josh:

God.

Josh:

What is it?

Josh:

The

Sean:

the, the

John:

lust.

John:

Yeah.

John:

Oh my

Sean:

the

Sean:

it's, it's kinda giving me like furry vibe.

John:

I

John:

going to say

Sean:

Which that would be a fun episode as well.

Sean:

We should, that one would require smart.

Sean:

There would definitely have to be smart for

John:

we need I think we need guest for that and make them

Josh:

A guessed

John:

as

Sean:

WIC Animaniacs if you are a, oh, we want, we want somebody not into it.

Sean:

Okay.

Josh:

me.

Josh:

I'm not into

Sean:

I was about

Sean:

to say, I want somebody who is very aroused,

Josh:

Who too into it.

Sean:

oh my Okay.

Sean:

So shout out to a Reddit user bedroom cassette, um, they, they posted

John:

already.

Sean:

uh, they accepted that they posted sometimes it's the obvious

Sean:

answer to a cryptids identification.

Sean:

And it's an article from Metro lifestyle at reads rescuers learn

Sean:

that the exotic bird they found was actually just a seagull covered.

Sean:

And it's a big seagull best oranges.

Sean:

Fuck.

Sean:

From head to toe claw.

Sean:

I don't know.

Sean:

Talon mats the word.

Josh:

Oh

Sean:

Oh man.

John:

Oh

John:

my

Sean:

then here is a shout out to a Reddit user Seders square pants.

Sean:

Uh, they said the Jersey devil, which originated in the pine Barrens of

Sean:

New Jersey in the early 18th century was originally described as having a

Sean:

horse's head bat wings, cloven hooves, and a serpent's tail regarding the

Sean:

famous Jersey devil sightings of 1909, Loren Coleman and Ivan T Sanderson.

Sean:

Oh, the guy that.

Sean:

Made

Sean:

this

Sean:

shit, uh, offered the explanation that they were part of an elaborate real estate

Sean:

hoax used by developers as a boogeyman figure to frighten residents, into

Sean:

selling their properties at lower prices.

Sean:

AKA cryptid gentrification.

Josh:

Christ.

Sean:

So

Josh:

some fucked up capitalism if I've ever heard,

Sean:

yeah, we were talking about how harmless and fun cryptozoology

Sean:

is, but I guess anything could truly, anything can be used to fearmonger and

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Also, also, I just had like a, I had like a, you know, when you realize

Josh:

something and you're so dumb, you've just made a connection to something.

Josh:

I just realized why they're called the New Jersey devil hockey like,

Sean:

Oh

Josh:

oh fuck.

Sean:

didn't know that until I read this too.

Sean:

And I was like, oh,

Josh:

soon as you're reading it, I was like, oh fuck.

Josh:

Yeah, that just makes sense.

Josh:

I dunno why I never thought about it.

Sean:

That is pretty cool that they have a straight up hockey

Sean:

team named after a cryptid.

Josh:

Yeah.

Sean:

And this is coming from a guy whose football team is just the Texans,

John:

Yeah.

John:

That's the most

Sean:

the fucking worst football we had.

Sean:

I think the options were like Apollos for a bunch of space themed things,

Sean:

Toros, Apollos, um, cooler shit.

Sean:

And then they voted Texans.

Josh:

you want to talk about dumb sports teams names.

Josh:

So we have, well, we have the Montreal Canadians, so that's, you know,

Sean:

Oh, wait, we're on the same vibes then.

Josh:

same vibe for that.

Josh:

But the Toronto maple Leafs, uh, the maple leaf is not a scary symbol.

Sean:

Yeah, it is an iconic logo though.

Sean:

I can't shit on them too much because the logo is iconic, but

Josh:

But that's just, cause they're like really popular.

Josh:

necessarily the logo, you know what I

Sean:

yeah.

John:

is

John:

why is there a color blue though?

John:

Like that doesn't

Josh:

Yeah that's it

John:

yeah, doesn't make it so Canadian ish.

Josh:

yeah, I don't actually know why, but Toronto is like you think, I think blue

Josh:

when I think Toronto, for some reason, but

Josh:

most the

Josh:

blue

John:

That makes sense.

John:

Cause it's

Josh:

the Toronto Argonauts are, which is our CFL team

Sean:

oh yeah.

Sean:

Argonauts, they look like the Oilers, I think.

Josh:

uh, the oil, like

Sean:

there's the, the, oh, the Houston Oilers was our former

Josh:

Oh, okay.

Josh:

It's like there's, the Oilers hockey team.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

I should do a whole episode on the fucking Oilers Tennessee times.

Sean:

They, they took the franchise to Tennessee and hanging in their stadium is a bunch

Sean:

of banners for players that never played in Tennessee played for the Titans.

Sean:

It's of Houston hanging in Tennessee some bullshit, bro.

Josh:

That would affect jets, did that.

Josh:

Cause they, they moved, uh, to, I think they became the Atlanta Thrashers

Josh:

who then became, uh, Calgary flames.

Josh:

Maybe.

Josh:

I don't know who the anyway, but then the, then Winnipeg came from another

Josh:

team and then they they're just like that, that our franchise that

Josh:

has nothing to do with us anymore.

Josh:

That's the same word, the same.

Sean:

Yeah, it's some

Josh:

It's no, you're not fuckers.

Sean:

Awful.

Sean:

I fucking

Sean:

the

Josh:

got way off topic.

Sean:

Uh, I found a quick, uh, reference for, um, north American crypted.

Sean:

So we're talking all three countries.

Sean:

Uh, we got, uh, we'll start from south to not, yeah, south to north.

Sean:

You guys, let me know if you guys have heard of these.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

So we got the Chupacabra classic, you know,

Josh:

Yeah.

Sean:

one

Sean:

uh, the swamp.

Sean:

Uh, the lake worth monster, the skin Walker,

John:

Y no

Josh:

one

Sean:

Oklahoma octopus,

John:

Yes,

Sean:

the Margolin monster.

Sean:

Uh, you got a bunch of lake monsters here.

Sean:

We got some, we got Tessie, we got bear lake monster.

Sean:

We got Sharley.

Sean:

We got champ.

Sean:

Uh, some of the, uh, we got the Thunderbird.

Sean:

We have the Shunka we're rockin, the bat squash.

Sean:

That sounds crazy.

Josh:

that sounds

Sean:

Uh, right next to the Sasquatch, uh, make sense.

Sean:

Uh, we have the beast of Bray road, the Ozark Howler, the

Sean:

Pope lick monster moth, man.

Sean:

Everyone's from.

Josh:

lik

John:

yeah

Sean:

Uh,

Josh:

did you say Pope

Sean:

I did say Pope lick monster.

Sean:

That is very problematic sounding and, uh,

Josh:

Going to jail.

Sean:

Matt, great name for that one.

Sean:

Uh, right next to the Jersey devil.

Sean:

Uh, of course you got frogman, you

John:

Nice.

Sean:

Dover, you got the Dover demon.

Sean:

And then, uh, in Canada we got more lake monsters.

Sean:

Uh, oh, woops, Alaska lake monster.

Sean:

We have the illegal Iliana lake monster in Alaska.

Sean:

That's the last American one.

Sean:

Well, let's jump into Canada.

Sean:

We got uh,

Sean:

the

Sean:

you know, uh, uh, go Pogo.

Josh:

Yeah, that's a that's in British Columbia.

Sean:

Wow, nice.

Sean:

Uh, total lake monster.

Sean:

I imagine by.

Josh:

don't

Josh:

what that is.

Sean:

No.

Sean:

Uh, I don't know.

Josh:

I'll look it

Sean:

to be honest, I do not know the province is of Canada and I apologize.

Sean:

I, but to be fair, I don't even know, uh, all the, I know the states, but if

Sean:

I point at fucking, uh, I don't fucking know, uh, I where's Carolina, where's

Sean:

north and South You know what I'm saying?

Sean:

It's a,

Josh:

probably beside

Sean:

know Montana, all those square shaped ones.

Sean:

They're all the same to me.

Sean:

I don't fucking know

Josh:

So, so that's, uh, the, the turtle lakes in Saskatchewan, which is the

Josh:

worst province, because it just looks like they drew it in its straight lines.

Sean:

is straight lines.

Sean:

That is fucking that's Montana of, uh, of

Josh:

Of Canada.

John:

quote

Sean:

they got, they got the manna Pogo, which I guess is a cousin of the Ogopogo.

Josh:

Oh,

Sean:

Um, and then they add some other kinds of monsters that aren't

Sean:

oh, wait, I forgot this one, the memory, another lake monster.

Sean:

Uh, now we're getting outside of the lake, some land monsters for Canada.

Sean:

We got the AdLit.

Sean:

We got that.

Sean:

Well, Heela and we got the Wendigo.

Sean:

heard of

Josh:

to go.

Josh:

I've

John:

you

Josh:

Yeah.

Sean:

Alright.

Sean:

And then quick, very quick through the world.

Sean:

Cryptids all right.

Sean:

We have, oh, does it say where it's from or these places?

Sean:

I guess, uh, we have alien gray from Zetta red to Cooley.

Sean:

We have the bat Squatch from Washington.

Sean:

We have Tupa from central south and north America.

Sean:

We got the death rooms in Mongolia, that Enfield monster.

Sean:

Ooh, shout out to, uh weird distractions podcasts.

Sean:

And they talked about the Enfield monster recent.

Josh:

Yup.

Sean:

Uh, that's an Illinois.

Sean:

Uh, they got the flatwood monsters in West Virginia.

Sean:

A lot of these are American.

Sean:

I thought this was a world one, uh, glob stir worldwide, a hell hound worldwide.

Sean:

Uh,

Josh:

of how hands though?

Josh:

Isn't that Greek pathology though?

Sean:

sounds like

Sean:

would be

Sean:

Yeah, like

Sean:

servers,

Josh:

I

Sean:

uh, in South Africa, they have something called that in con Yamba

Sean:

or in Kenya combo, uh, Jersey devil from New Jersey, of course, Messi

Sean:

from Scott or Nessie from Scotland.

Josh:

Oh, it's like Lionel Messi.

Sean:

I know messy, uh, math man.

Sean:

We can't speak enough about math man.

Sean:

Frogman.

Sean:

You'll have to see that.

John:

riveting.

Sean:

Uh, the cracking from Greenland

John:

good games

Josh:

that the Seattle cracking.

Sean:

oh, that that logo is fucking bad ass.

Sean:

I love the

Josh:

their colors are nice, too.

Sean:

The colors are nice too.

Sean:

Uh, you got the APOE go.

Sean:

We've talked about that.

Sean:

The Pope lick monster made it on the world list.

Sean:

in Khan, Kentucky Queensland tiger from Australia.

Sean:

Uh, you have reptilians alpha

John:

I'm

Sean:

no location.

Sean:

Yeah, the fucking I'm aware.

Sean:

Jesus Christ.

Sean:

Sasquatch north America, the wind Dego north America, the CC Z U uh, China,

Sean:

the Thunderbird America, the UMD

Josh:

sound

John:

Yeah.

Sean:

Thunderbird

John:

Pontiac Thunderbird.

Josh:

freedom.

Sean:

you got

Sean:

from the Himalayas.

Sean:

You got the.

Sean:

Super Uh, the Atlantic ocean, you got something called as this text.

Sean:

This font was a bad font.

Sean:

Uh, not going to lie.

Sean:

It's very hard to read this.

Sean:

So apologies if I've mispronounced any of these.

Sean:

Uh, I take no blame.

Sean:

I blame this person.

Sean:

Um, this is, uh, the Zara tan, uh, and then the from South Africa

John:

Yeah

Sean:

and then the, from some the Soviet union, which is not a thing anymore.

Sean:

The

Josh:

Yeah, they're building a

Sean:

now they're building it back.

Sean:

They're trying

John:

Steve Rogers sent Steve Rogers back, please.

Josh:

We need them.

Sean:

Volvo Ron nets giant.

Sean:

Okay.

Sean:

And that was from a Reddit user.

Sean:

I don't know if they made this artwork, but they're the ones who posted it.

Sean:

So the other ones getting.

Sean:

Uh, altruism seven, shout out to you who, if you design this while the font

Sean:

is pretty, it is very hard to read.

John:

Very altruistic of you to do that.

Sean:

Boom.

Josh:

Nice

John:

just making a pun.

John:

I'm just telling them that you look did work.

Sean:

Okay.

Sean:

So that's everything from Reddit.

Sean:

Uh, I'm going to try and do this.

Sean:

It's called the Wiki speed run.

Sean:

I told the guys about it earlier and shout out to, uh, Ryan from my

Sean:

other podcast shots and thoughts.

Sean:

He sent it to me and said, y'all should do this.

Sean:

So Ryan, if you're listening, which I doubt because you don't

Sean:

listen to her own show, if

Sean:

are

Sean:

we're doing it, my guy who just fucking do.

Sean:

Uh, so what I'm going to do is, uh, you guys will pick your favorite crypted

Sean:

over the ones we've listed, and then I'm going to get a random brand generator.

Sean:

So a brand name, anything.

Sean:

And then, uh, you guys will try and go from the Wikipedia of the cryptid to

Sean:

the Wikipedia page of the brand name.

John:

Oh my God.

Josh:

you to go one at a time so we read out what

Sean:

one at a time.

Sean:

So you can read out your technique and what you're trying

Sean:

do here, uh, for the YouTubers.

Sean:

Uh, we can, we can fucking share screen on this.

Sean:

Whoever's going first, but John or Josh, uh, who wants to go first?

John:

I don't even know what the fuck is happening, but let's do it.

Sean:

Oh yeah.

Sean:

So Josh kinda knows.

John:

So Josh, we'll go first.

Sean:

So you can go ahead and go.

Josh:

Okay.

Josh:

Uh, I will share my screen and I chose the Ogopogo, you know, got to go

Sean:

Gotta represent.

Josh:

Canada.

Josh:

Drake would be proud.

Sean:

So, uh, I pulled up the random brand generator here and we're going

Sean:

to go from the APOE go to generate.

Josh:

Have we explained the rules?

Josh:

Do you to,

Sean:

yeah.

Josh:

no, you go ahead.

Josh:

You're the

Sean:

I'll explain.

Sean:

So what we're doing here is, uh, on Wikipedia, we maniacs.

Sean:

If you've never learned it, there's a, when you're on a Wikipedia page, there

Sean:

will be, um, I guess hot, there will be hot links to other Wikipedia pages.

Sean:

So we're trying to go from one Wikipedia page and click on words on each page.

Sean:

That will take us to the word we want to get to.

Sean:

Does that make sense?

Sean:

Is that a, is that a suffice description of what's happening, Josh?

Josh:

Yeah, I think so.

Sean:

Okay

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

So, uh, for people viewing on YouTube, I don't know when we're putting these on

Sean:

YouTube, but we have the capabilities now.

Sean:

Uh, if you're gonna, uh, Josh's sharing a screen, but for the podcast

Sean:

listeners, which is most of our Wikimedia ex Josh will explain what

Sean:

he's trying to do as he does it.

Sean:

So he's gonna go from the Wikipedia page of a Pogo and try to see how

Sean:

long it'll take him to get to the Wikipedia page Wikipedia page for a hug

Sean:

as an

Sean:

ugly boots.

Sean:

That's what was auto-generated

Josh:

okay.

Josh:

That is difficult, I think.

Sean:

I

Josh:

All right.

Josh:

All right.

Sean:

take it away, Josh.

Sean:

The time now.

Josh:

on Ogopogo.

Josh:

Let's look, uh,

John:

I

Josh:

man.

Josh:

Um, let's go.

Josh:

Jesus.

Josh:

Uh, we got, we got Canada here one day.

Josh:

Uh, yeah, let's go.

Josh:

Let's go Canada.

Josh:

Let's see if we can't narrow it down.

Josh:

There's going to lot here.

Josh:

Uh, north America, United States.

Sean:

Yeah, maybe we go United States.

Josh:

Uh, God damn

Sean:

This is a on Tik TOK while Josh is looking on Tik TOK.

Sean:

This man does, uh, I think I forget what words he did.

Sean:

Uh, but he did this game and it took him 30 seconds to

Sean:

fucking speed run through this.

Sean:

Uh, I imagine it's gonna take us much, much

John:

30 minutes

Josh:

so much

Josh:

longer.

Sean:

this is, this is this man's Tik TOK content.

Sean:

So he's lots of practice.

Sean:

This is our first time going into.

Josh:

Do you think first nations would lead me to Uggs?

Josh:

Like of like moccasins.

Sean:

So hint and boots are an American brand and they are kind of like moccasins.

Sean:

You could go boots.

Sean:

You can

Josh:

Yeah, I'm going to go boots.

Josh:

I'm gonna go first nations.

Josh:

Uh, see if we can can't find moccasins.

Josh:

Can I control F

Sean:

Yeah, you can control.

Sean:

If there's the only rule is you have to click from page to page.

Josh:

moccasins?

Josh:

Okay.

Josh:

We're on a roll

Sean:

We're Here we go.

Sean:

Moccasins.

Sean:

There we

Josh:

deer skin.

Josh:

Uh, can we see sheer leather?

Josh:

Okay.

Josh:

That's not what we want.

Josh:

Oh, buck at box work boot, maybe work boot

Sean:

I work boot would be good.

Josh:

combat boot, footwear

Sean:

Maybe you can go from like leisure.

Sean:

Oh, fashion.

Sean:

There you

Josh:

Oh, but I think footwear is probably the

Sean:

Well, where's good.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

So we're on the Wikipedia page for footwear.

Sean:

That is an erotic photo of, uh, some socks, strange

Josh:

feet

Josh:

here?

Sean:

So I don't know why there's a foot pick on that Wikipedia page.

John:

Maybe you'd go to boots.

Josh:

W, uh,

Sean:

was at the Wikipedia page for boots.

John:

No, there's there's like

Sean:

Oh no, you're at

John:

of boots

Sean:

Oh yeah.

Sean:

Go.

Sean:

Oh, there we go.

Sean:

Boots

Sean:

as their

Josh:

boots?

Josh:

There's just boots.

Sean:

Nice.

Josh:

No, I feel I was just here.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

I feel like you were at the boot page fashion fetish use.

Sean:

Oh my God.

Josh:

Is there a fetishy

Sean:

Am I reading that correctly?

Sean:

It looks like it says Spanish cheese

Josh:

writing

Josh:

raps.

Josh:

Wanders Gore-Tex uh,

Sean:

fashion and fed you.

Sean:

Am I making things up?

Josh:

boot fetishism.

Josh:

Yep.

Sean:

Yeah, there it

Josh:

uh, didn't know we were going smut here, Sean.

Sean:

I It finds its way to me, unfortunately.

Josh:

what are, what are gumboots?

Josh:

Oh, that.

Sean:

what?

Sean:

I mean, it helps the, it doesn't help that we are not fashionable enough hurt.

Sean:

No Uggs are not fashionable enough for us to know

John:

what they're called

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

Alex are definitely boots.

Sean:

They're ugly.

Sean:

Um,

John:

only Tom Brady.

John:

The only male that could pull that off.

Sean:

no, not even Tom Brady

John:

Hey man, Tom Brady could pull

Josh:

Um, maybe we can get the fashion.

Josh:

I don't know.

Josh:

I, not, I'm at a loss.

Josh:

I'm at a loss with the boots

Sean:

we might, we might be taking an L on this one off the bat.

Josh:

I might have to.

Josh:

Yeah.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

We're in fashion.

Josh:

just, I'm just not seeing a way how to get to

John:

that's hard.

Sean:

how to get to brand, you know what we got from Ogopogo to boots.

Sean:

So I feel like that's that's pretty fucking that's in, but we're in,

Sean:

we're in the, we're in the ballpark.

Sean:

I I'm taking that as.

John:

you're going to you're doing way better than I possibly could,

Sean:

say, boots is good.

Sean:

Boots is good.

Sean:

You got the boots fashion footwear.

Sean:

We got the weird erotic sock photo.

Sean:

I think we did it.

Josh:

I don't, I don't feel like I won, but we'll, we'll go.

Josh:

Uh,

Josh:

all

Sean:

just, I'm just saying you're going to win because I feel like that's closer

Sean:

than what we're going to get with John.

John:

Oh my

Josh:

Well, it depends if he gets like Coca-Cola I feel

John:

I mean, I'm not, I don't even know what the hell I'm doing,

John:

so, uh, we'll figure it out.

John:

So I'm sharing my screen.

Sean:

Yeah, Which a cryptid are you going to go with my guy

John:

Uh, let's do oh shit.

John:

Let's do, um, can you see it?

Sean:

you're doing everyone's favorite math man, or do

Sean:

you have your own personal.

John:

Yeah.

John:

Let's, let's go moth man.

Josh:

Nice.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

We're going to the Wikipedia page of math, man.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

Your word generate Ben and Jerry's

John:

Jerry's.

John:

my God.

John:

So let's go to,

Sean:

are both American.

Sean:

I feel like that'll be at least a little easier to get to.

John:

let me go to United States if they have it.

Josh:

I would imagine it'd be here.

Sean:

You gotta

John:

It's not clickable thing though.

John:

Uh,

Josh:

That one might

Sean:

hit, West Virginia, and then you can get to America

John:

sure.

John:

Let's hit West Virginia, but really trying to go to you.

John:

Can't really pick it.

Josh:

junior.

Sean:

Here we go.

John:

Uh, yeah.

John:

I, no idea what I'm doing.

John:

So

Sean:

it

Sean:

just clicking from leak

Sean:

There's got to be it's

Josh:

Yeah

Josh:

is there not a clickable link for

John:

Uh,

Josh:

United States?

John:

There's none for ice cream.

John:

I was trying to look it

Sean:

My man is just trying to cheat grind right

John:

yeah.

John:

So

Josh:

Can you really not find United

John:

doesn't like it doesn't let you

Sean:

Click on it.

John:

No,

Josh:

like, could you, is there there's mountain states?

John:

Uh, let's go with, um, oh, there you go.

John:

Let's go with United

Josh:

you go.

Sean:

Yeah.

Sean:

Where were you

John:

couldn't

John:

find it.

John:

So

Josh:

Uh

Sean:

has been in and that's uh,

John:

I have no idea.

Sean:

that's it.

Sean:

That's the where?

Sean:

Uh,

John:

So for food, ice cream.

Sean:

Oh, here go.

Sean:

Food.

Sean:

There we

Josh:

Oh, there you go.

Josh:

You're

Sean:

we go.

Sean:

fucking in there

John:

Where's

Josh:

Control control.

Josh:

been

John:

Ben.

John:

There's no bed in Jerry.

John:

There

Sean:

Oh

Josh:

There it

John:

go.

Sean:

Ben Jerry's baby.

Sean:

We did it.

John:

yeah.

Sean:

That's a Deb.

Sean:

That's

Sean:

fucking Deb

John:

let's get it

Sean:

to

Sean:

see

Josh:

quick to

Sean:

was quick.

Sean:

That

John:

That it wasn't 30 seconds, but if I found a U S much faster, I

John:

probably would've gotten it faster.

Sean:

Oh man.

Sean:

All right.

Sean:

Well that's, uh, that replaced the smart for me until further smell will

Sean:

be very, unless, unless you guys tell me otherwise, I know, I know, uh, one

Sean:

of our patrons Gabby was into the smart, so I don't want to completely shut out

Sean:

smart, you know, cause patron, you know, that's, uh, you really proven how big of

Sean:

a wicked maniac you are by being a patron.

Sean:

So, uh, yeah, I mean, I'm going to do smart, just, uh, not every episode.

Sean:

It was really taken a lot out of my soul.

Sean:

So

John:

Was it cause he was taking a lot from us too.

Josh:

I was going to say.

Sean:

As much as I enjoyed the embarrassment of you guys,

Sean:

whenever I was a part of it, I was like, yeah, this is bad.

Sean:

I don't like saying, I don't really like saying all these words.

Josh:

That's

Josh:

fair

Sean:

Oh God.

Sean:

I'm but yeah, that's it for this week's episode, a little inside joke is that

Sean:

before every episode I say, I think this is going to be a short one and

Sean:

here we are hour over an hour into this.

Sean:

Uh, yeah.

Sean:

So, uh, that's it for this week.

Sean:

We'll see you guys next week and, uh, yeah, shout out to, uh, all of our

Sean:

family on the cultivated podcast network.

Sean:

Make sure to listen to their shows.

Sean:

Uh, if you need any information on that, you can follow us at

Sean:

cultivate, uh, network on Instagram, tick-tock Twitter and, uh, yeah,

Sean:

that's cultivates C U L T I V.

Sean:

The letter eight, you know, the vibes peace out later.

Josh:

C

Sean:

Oh, I forgot about this.